New to Nids

[barenone]

Hello everyone,

First and foremost hi my name is Matt and all of that good stuff. On march 8 I will be receiving a very large Tyranid army from a friend of mine. He plays the army as a shooting army just to confuse people.

I want to play it different. I have never played a none imperium army so I am very excited. I want to make a surprise army. I do not want the enemy to know what is going to happen and let them always be afraid of any move they made.

Tyranids are perfect for this. I would just like some suggestions on good was to achieve this. I read about tunneling which I thought would be useful but it is probably not as good as it sounds. Same with the Deathleaper who I am already falling in love with even though I have never seen him.

I do like the idea of a blanket of spore mines over the field. Anyone have any suggestions?

[patsfan32]

You want lictors, mawlocs, biovores and ymgarls then. Throw in a flyrant for good measure and you got yourself a good theme to base an army on. Mawlocs are really fun units to use to disrupt theenemy behind their lines. You burrow turn 1 then deepstrike on to enemy units next turn inflicting a large blast on a squad. With what you want to do I would stay away from the cookie cutter tervi dpam lists and play units you want to play. Dont let anyone talk you out of using something your interested in.

[commandersasha]

Welcome to the Hive!

I like the theme you are going for, and disruption is always fun!

Tyranids are struggling a bit in the competitive scene at the moment, apart from the standard Tervi list with Flyrants, but if you are playing at a friendly level, there are plenty of good units, although I fear Lictors are not anywhere near as good as you'd like.

Deathleaper is a great fun model to use, Ymgarls are absolutely golden(being able to assault on the turn they arrive unlike most deep-strikers).

A spore list makes a mess of opponent's strategies; just beware: maintaining Synapse is VITAL, as the first time your units lose that 25%, they will run screaming like little girls! If you are using spores, include a Zoeanthrope spore or some winged Synapse to keep those broods under control!

Any idea what models you are getting? Are they painted? Look forward to hearing from you ;-)

[voncrown]

Ymgarls and trygons will be your best friend, as well as some stuff being dropped in via mycetic spores (doom of malantai can be devastatingly effective in that role, potentially).

At high enough points, you can also run swarmlord and a flyrant with hive commander for near-guaranteed turn 2 reserves, as well as the ability to outflank a troops choice *coughcoughtervigoncoughcough*.

I'd advise against mawlocs, biovores will do just about as well for a ton less points, and every turn instead of every other. Speaking of biovores, while their firepower and range is quite nice for their cost, don't go thinking loose spore mines are going to do much. Because of technicalities in how movement works and the way spore mine detonation is triggered, they'll usually only hit 1 model.

[barenone]

Thanks for all of the infor so far guys I am enjoying all of the advice and research it is leading to. I am not to sure what I am getting just yet I just know what he used when I play him once ( He is a very good friend so I know he will not screw me over on the deal) I know he did not even field half of what he has but what he fielded is roughly,

Hive tyrant

tyrant guard x 4

zoanthrope x 4

venothrope x 2

termigrount x 20

trygon

biovore x3 (really messed with my orc teammate lol)

He also has Doom.

He would say his paintjob is ok but I would easily call it excellent, he is just modest. I will get a full army list and some pics once I get them.

I know value wise just fro the models cost (brand knew not painted not built) it is roughly $1300 worth of models so needless to say there is a lot.

[voncrown]

You sure it was 4 tyrant guard? You can only take up to 3 per unit, one unit per tyrant.

[patsfan32]

2 per walkrant? or walkrant and swarmlord? His friend could have played before flyrants were the be all end all lol

[barenone]

it could have easily been 3, Like i said I played it once and it was my first time ever playing against nids so i cannot be 100% I know the doom for a fact because it nuked the orcs. I know the bios because of the mines, I know the zyno because it would str 10 my paladins and I know the trygon because of how he looks. I know of the termis because I enjoyed using my dreadknights heavy incinerator and Gatling psilencer on them

[swarmy]

Feb 22, 2013 18:33:59 GMT barenone said:

Hello everyone,

First and foremost hi my name is Matt and all of that good stuff. On march 8 I will be receiving a very large Tyranid army from a friend of mine. He plays the army as a shooting army just to confuse people.

I want to play it different. I have never played a none imperium army so I am very excited. I want to make a surprise army. I do not want the enemy to know what is going to happen and let them always be afraid of any move they made.

Tyranids are perfect for this. I would just like some suggestions on good was to achieve this. I read about tunneling which I thought would be useful but it is probably not as good as it sounds. Same with the Deathleaper who I am already falling in love with even though I have never seen him.

I do like the idea of a blanket of spore mines over the field. Anyone have any suggestions?

It sounds like some sort of alpha strike list is more your speed. I run lists like this and it makes most people sweat about those impending turn 2 reserve rolls:

== HQ ==
Swarmlord Brood (345 pts.)
Swarmlord (1) = 280 pts.
Tyrant Guard (1) - Lash Whip = 65 pts.

== Elites ==
Ymgarl Genestealer Brood (9) = 207 pts.
Doom Of Malan'tai Brood (140 pts.)
Doom Of Malan'tai (1) = 90 pts.
Mycetic Spore (1) - Twin-Linked Deathspitter = 50 pts.

== Troops ==
Termagant Brood (210 pts.)
Termagant (16) - Devourer = 160 pts.
Mycetic Spore (1) - Twin-Linked Deathspitter = 50 pts.
Termagant Brood (210 pts.)
Termagant (16) - Devourer = 160 pts.
Mycetic Spore (1) - Twin-Linked Deathspitter = 50 pts.
Tervigon (1) - Scything Talons, Stinger Salvo, AG, Toxin Sacs, Cat, Taken As Troops = 200 pts.

== Fast Attack ==
Gargoyle Brood (30) = 180 pts.

== Total ==
1492 pts.

48 S4 shots per termagant spore is a pretty surprising number of saves for most terminators/marines/T4 stuff . T3 things turn to dust.

[barenone]

That and there is a lot more room to play with as well seeing as how we mostly play 1750-2000 point games, Nice list.

[barenone]

OK I have the list of what models I am getting. It looks like I have a lot of work to get the army where I want it but what is fun without a little work.

1x Tyranid Prime

1x Hive Tyrant (ave wings to make flyrant)

40x Hormagaunts

5x Warriors

6x zounthroups

9x Biovores/Pyrovores

9x Ravergers

1x Trygon/Mawloc

90X spore mines

He said there is something else he just cannot remember off the top of his head.

[FTGTEvan]

That's a pretty healthy start. You'll probably want some termagants at some point, but not a bad place to be.

Side note: That is a TON of spore mines. Why?

[barenone]

well 9 people shooting 3 each round plus the ones at start< i think he was making sure he never ran out.

[nurglitch]

Are the spore mines metal, or plastic? I managed to find eight plastic ones from the 4th edition box set and was pretty pleased with managing to find that many.

[barenone]

they are all plastic.