new faqs up!

[rpricew]

Jan 16, 2013 13:17:13 GMT rpricew said:

~No cover saves against Vector Strikes and the wounds are randomly distributed.

~Rending hits on Vehicles is no longer AP2 - This helps keep Genestealers from exploding vehicles so easily

Q: If a unit has the Fearless special rule applied to them while they
have Gone to Ground, are the effects of Go to Ground immediately
cancelled (for example, if this were to occur at the start of their turn
could those units then move, shoot etc. as normal in the appropriate
phases?) (p35)

A: Yes

~This sounds like if you have a unit that's gone to ground (like infiltrating Genestealers) and then at the start of your turn, you use Dominion to boost Synapse to 18", they can then move and assault just like normal. That's pretty awesome.

~Wounds can't be allocated to models outside of a Weapon's Range.

Q: Do models in a multiple Toughness value unit who are involved
in a Challenge still use the majority Toughness of their unit? (p64)

A: No, they use their own Toughness value.

This is bad for the Swarmstar if the Swarmlord or Prime get's pulled into a challenge. That leaves somebody fighting at their own Toughness. Still not a game breaker


Q: Blessings are manifested ‘at the start of the Psyker’s Movement
phase’ – does this mean they happen simultaneously with Reserves
rolls, Outflanking rolls etc and if so which is resolved first? (p68)

A: They do occur simultaneously – as such, the player whose
turn it is decides in what order these things occur as per
page 9 of the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook.

This is HUGE... now that outflanking Tervigon can cast Iron Arm/Endurance on himself when arriving from reserves. Of course so can you're enemy Librarian coming in from a Drop Pod cast his powers too.

I just went back and re-read the FAQ. It doesn't say you can move before casting Blessings, so sadly my initial response was wrong. It just says you can choose the order of things. That means, that you can know what units are coming in, before casting blessings, but you still have to cast them before your Reserves arrive.

Boo Hiss, sorry to get anyone's (including my own) hopes up!

[coredump]

Jan 16, 2013 16:48:49 GMT rpricew said:

I just went back and re-read the FAQ. It doesn't say you can move before casting Blessings, so sadly my initial response was wrong. It just says you can choose the order of things. That means, that you can know what units are coming in, before casting blessings, but you still have to cast them before your Reserves arrive.

Boo Hiss, sorry to get anyone's (including my own) hopes up!

Not so fast with the boo/hiss. While I would love a FAQ for this FAQ question... there is strong indication that your first impression was correct.

There is room in the rules to believe that you make the reserve *roll only*, and then blessings,and then actually arrive from reserves. But...

The Outflank roll only happens when the unit actually arrives from reserves. And when you arrive, you move fully onto the battlefield.

So it is 'possible' that only Outflanking happens before blessings, and then the rest of reserves... but that makes just about no sense.

It looks to me like you can arrive from reserves, and then use Blessings. (Still can't spawn however.)

[Lanesend]

Aw, you´re right. It only concerns the reserve roll, not the move onto the board itself.

-edit- Coredump also has a good point. I'm going to check exact wording now.

Well, In my opinion, it´s a good FAQ anyway. The covered a lot of stuff which was messy.

And as an Emperor´s Children player, I´m very happy with the errata for Noise Marines. The Noise champ is repaired to also get a close combat weapon.
And you can now buy a Blastmaster under 10 models! ;D

[coredump]

Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e. half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half are not)? (p15)
A: No.


Realize this affects all the guns. So if your 5 warriors (deathspitters) are all within 18" of only 2 Orks, but you have a 6th warrior with a Barbed Strangler... then every Ork within 36" can die.


But the huge change is sniping; especially with premeasuring. Nuglitch is right, this may become another contentious issue, but the way I read it, LoS refers to its process as 'reallocating' a wound, which the FAQ seems to now disallow outside of the guns range.
If this holds up, this is a huge boost for sniping characters. Now you can premeasure, and make the target character the only one within 18" of your flyrant, now LoS will have no benefits....

[coredump]

Jan 16, 2013 13:17:13 GMT rpricew said:

Q: If a unit has the Fearless special rule applied to them while they
have Gone to Ground, are the effects of Go to Ground immediately
cancelled (for example, if this were to occur at the start of their turn
could those units then move, shoot etc. as normal in the appropriate
phases?) (p35)

A: Yes

~This sounds like if you have a unit that's gone to ground (like infiltrating Genestealers) and then at the start of your turn, you use Dominion to boost Synapse to 18", they can then move and assault just like normal. That's pretty awesome.

I will have to double check, but I am pretty sure you don't need to be so fancy, just move a Synapse creature within 12" of the stealers, before moving the stealers.... (but I need to double check that.)

Q: Do models in a multiple Toughness value unit who are involved
in a Challenge still use the majority Toughness of their unit? (p64)

A: No, they use their own Toughness value.

This is bad for the Swarmstar if the Swarmlord or Prime get's pulled into a challenge. That leaves somebody fighting at their own Toughness. Still not a game breaker

Interesting....
Obviously if the Prime goes into a challenge, the Prime reverts back to T5, and the SLord/Guard will be at the SLords T (Bio enhanced likely)

If the SLord gets into the challenge, then the Slord gets to keep his Bio enhanced T; but it looks like the rest of the unit does also. Not sure if that was intended.... but it doesn't say anything about the rest of the unit ignoring the 'in challenge' characters T when figuring out the average unit toughness.

Hmmm....

[Jabberwocky]

Fearless/Synapse got an insane boost.

Keep a unit just outside (hello Infiltrating stealers), go to ground for 2+/3+ cover, then push synapse forward or cast mental fortitude (hello Broodlord) and completely recover!

Also DoM in a pod can potentially iron arm on arrival now...

[revx]

im happy about using the 6" disembark from pod to get inside the 12" range of warp quake.

[Lanesend]

I just re-read the rules for outflank and reserves. Áccording to the rule book, reserve rolls and outflank rolls are *not* done simultaneously. You first roll reserve rolls for all your units to see who arrive, and after that (when you move each unit) you make the outflank roll.
(in which case blessings wouldn't work)

But the FAQ now speaks of "...simultaneously like reserve rolls, outflank rolls, etc...."
(in which case blessings would work)

the FAQ seems to contradict the rules. (or I'm just confused )

[swarmy]

Jan 16, 2013 18:28:25 GMT Lanesend said:

I just re-read the rules for outflank and reserves. Áccording to the rule book, reserve rolls and outflank rolls are *not* done simultaneously. You first roll reserve rolls for all your units to see who arrive, and after that (when you move each unit) you make the outflank roll.
(in which case blessings wouldn't work)

But the FAQ now speaks of "...simultaneously like reserve rolls, outflank rolls, etc...."
(in which case blessings would work)

the FAQ seems to contradict the rules. (or I'm just confused )

Was that the "refer to pg9" part they spoke of? I really hope this gets sorted out...that has massive implications for us...I have a sneaking suspicion that the movement incurred by *moving* in from reserves will still trump the casting of blessings since it's before any movement. I hope I'm wrong.

[Lanesend]

Yeah. Page 9 just explains that the player who's turn it is gets to decide in which order simultaneous actions occur.

I think that in the case of this FAQ entry they mean "the Reserve roll" for an outflanking unit and not "the Outflank roll" for an outflanking unit.

Anyway, I don't think we can manifest blessings from psykers who have just "moved" onto the board. The FAQ probably adresses some problem from another army.

[roxor08]

It seems like this FAQ release was rather small...I mean on the whole, very few changes to anything...

Lots of the changes, however, we're desperately needed. I think though, the blessings before arrival from reserves is still an arguable point of contention.

Do you think that they honestly intended that when DoM arrives via spore he can cast iron arm on himself for the eternal warrior? If that is what they actually many to so we're gonna see lots of marine players go "wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!"

Bueller? Bueller?

[coredump]

You have a 1:6 chance of getting that....

What I think helps DoM more is the MySPore disembark range. With that 6" we can be sure to get DoM placed just where we want him.

[andy089]

Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e. half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half are not)? (p15)
A: No.

I am curious how this will interact with things like rapid fire weapons, where half the unit is in RF range and the other half isn't...

[Davor]

Jan 16, 2013 22:39:37 GMT andy089 said:

Q: When making a Shooting attack against a unit, can Wounds from the Wound Pool be allocated to models that were not within range any of the shooting models when To Hit rolls were made (i.e. half the targeted model are in the shooting models’ range, and half are not)? (p15)
A: No.

I am curious how this will interact with things like rapid fire weapons, where half the unit is in RF range and the other half isn't...

Isn't there a rule something about now, if say you have 9 weapons 12" and say a weapon 48" and you shoot at a unit where only one mini is 11" away, but since you have a 48" weapon they are all in range now?

Something in the FAQ. I am still confused over it all.

[t⊗theark]

Jan 16, 2013 21:50:54 GMT coredump said:

You have a 1:6 chance of getting that....

What I think helps DoM more is the MySPore disembark range. With that 6" we can be sure to get DoM placed just where we want him.

I didn't consider that. You can get them right in themiddle of the action.

A very good friend of mine who uses a Skyray and a squad of tetras as some unique anti air in not impressed....

Q: If Seeker Missiles are fires at a Zooming Flyer or a Swooping Flying Monstrous Creature, what roll to to hit to they require?
A: 6+