Trygon Tactica?

[IainL]

I recently picked up a Trygon and I've been testing him out, but so far he hasn't been doing much. I know that it's probably because I'm newer to 40k and I'm probably not utilizing him correctly. Should I be starting him on the board, or continue deep striking him? Should I run a prime? Other upgrades?

Any help in using a Trygon or Prime would be great. Thanks.

[lordbob]

Well run your trygons with toxin sacs since poison is awesome in 6th ed, you no longer need adrenal glands since furious charge no longer grants the extra initiative and smash means you dont need to worry about extra strength.

Running trygons in pairs up the boards is very useful, and they will do a lot of damage. I've had success really with deep striking them or running them up, but running them up gives you more target saturation and you can control where they need to be. Deep striking to get the hole is useless for reserves.

They work very well as flankers, since they don't need to worry about being guided by the leading tyranids and with their speed can close in and get those nasty backfield units.

Trygons are also great with the new cover saves and supported with feel no pain.

Upgrading it to a prime, well I think that's a personal choice, you don't have to worry about rage, infact having your trygon falling into rage could be really good, you get more shots with the prime, which you can take advantage of now that fleet is done in the assault phase. The prime is also a character which means you can challenge the hidden powerfist in any group you get into combat with.

[groundpounder]

I've had lots of success with Trygons. In 5th I would have an all reserve army, including a tyrant with hive commander, so having trygons coming up in the backfield, at the same time pods with devil gaunts hit along with outflanking stealers and gaunts just gave the opponent too much to shoot at and the trygons would start punching face or die so that everything else could start punching face.

I've just started playing 6th but running trygons across the board behind a wall of gargoyles and side by side with a armored tyrant+guard unit has worked well. (buffed up with FNP from a trailing tervigon as mentioned above). Again it is all a case of target saturation. Too much to shoot.

I've never really tried the Prime upgrade. Never seemed worth the points to me, but I know guys swear by them. As far as the synapse goes I usually don't mind if it rages away. It's fearless anyway. Just my thoughts.

[thatnidguy]

I like running them in pairs at the enemies . They will draw fire from everything letting the rest of the army advance . There is nothing wrong with DS them , if I do I go prime just for the one round of shooting . The T6 "should keep him alive for a round , if not, then they wasted shots on it and not the rest of the army . I like when my trygons get targeted . It let's my 6o gargoyles hit the lines . Which I might add ties up min 4 units with multi-assault .

[Bot]

I don't play nearly as much as I used to, but here's a couple of words of advice from me.

Deployment

Deployment type means a lot. For an example if you get the deployment where you have to play over the long side of the table, it is often a good idea to deep strike them. That means that if they chose to hide far back from you, your trygons can keep them busy, hopefully fast, as the rest of your army is moving closer. Even if they did not choose to do so, you are then able to trap some of their units by deep striking behind their units.

For not to mention, those basilisks that your enemy thought were safe... Well... Not for much longer I think.

With the two other deployment types, my experience has been that it has been unnecessary to deep strike them. Let them stay on the table.

Remember, If you play with a lot of swarm, you may also want to deep strike them. You don't want your own units to slow your Trygons... And when it comes to assault, you would hate yourself if your small units had surrounded the unit you wanted to assault, thus denying your trygon the assault and the extra movement. Larger units with Termagants and Hormagaunts has always been a trygons worst nightmare and fear. In 5th as in 6th.

Note: I know this is obvious, but never deep strike a trygon if you don't believe it will survive it due to getting assaulted and shot. it is okay to deep strike a trygon and believe it will get shot down when it comes into play... because normally, that would happen to it anyway, regardless of what way you would have deployed it. But losing a couple of wounds to an assault and then get shot, that's far from good, as that means that you opponent had to waste less shots on your Trygon and that his men got to do something useful.

upgrades

As of upgrades... I don't think you should upgrade it at all. It is big and evil... but people will shoot at them. Just a waste of upgrade points if it were killed before it got to do anything. The Trygon hits hard regardless of Upgrades anyway.

Perhaps, if you were up against a list with a lot of monstrous creatures, upgrading it with Toxin sacs could be an okay upgrade, as it would mean that you would be able to re-roll to wound against them. Against everything else, Toxin sacs is nothing but overkill... Which you should try to avoid anyway.

Anyway, that's it for now. Perhaps I'll add a little more later, but I really should try to catch some sleep. xD

[WestRider]

I've several times seen people forgetting that Fleet lets them Re-Roll dice when Running as well as when Charging. Seems to be most common with Trygons, for some reason. Thought I'd toss that in the ring.

[IainL]

So far the concensus seems to be run it up the board. Ill give it a try, I think that with the Trygon on the board though, that it'll die quickly because it draws such attention.

[Illithid]

The key is to have other priority targets also. In 5th, I combined him with shrikes and raveners. I am finding that running a trogon with a supped-up tigon, fly rant and some large, fast threat really means he can survive.

My bare-boneone went toe-2-toe with a c'tan last night. Due to retools with duel scything talons, you can either not give him TS or spend the 10pts. I also always run them, as I can aid in spreading out the threats and with target saturation.

[casteel]

The last game I played, I used deep strike. The Trygon was behind three tanks and he was able to pop one. The other two took off.

It really depends on your opponent, the deployment, and threats. A Trygon is going to be tough but, he can draw a lot of fire. This can be both good AND bad. I have talked to a lot of players who refuse to rely on deep strike rolls.

[Anggul]

I run it up and make sure it has cover (so easy to get now that it only needs 25%). I also hide Raveners behind it to rush out once close enough because they inevitably go for the Trygon instead of trying to flank around and get the Raveners.

[deadeight]

Personally I favour taking it as a Trygon, not a Trygon Prime. For 200 points it's an absolute beast.

I tend to deep strike it next to a tank, where you get a free Hammer of Wrath attack at str6 on the charge, then 4 smash attacks at str10. After this you can run it over to other stuff, although it is slow. I don't think I've ever had a game where the trygon hasn't been really points efficient.

Bare in mind I use 2x Flyrants. I feel it works really well with them, especially if you can get it to pop up on turn 2.

I'm tempted to get some more for bigger lists.

[groundpounder]

Oct 28, 2012 1:56:10 GMT IainL said:

So far the concensus seems to be run it up the board. Ill give it a try, I think that with the Trygon on the board though, that it'll die quickly because it draws such attention.

So the idea is to have lots of other things for your oponent to shoot at! Last game I had a wave of gargoyles in front that the Ork player spent two turns shooting at. Then the Trygon got to him.

Nom Nom.....

[predator666x]

I run 3 tervigons and 2 trygons right down the middle and i just force him to have so many targets. Some thing usualy reaches his line!

[Raven]

To make deep striking the Trygon effective you need to place him near a juicy target but not so that he's surrounded by the enemy (enough bolter shots will take out even a Trygon) and especially far away from enemy units packing plasmaguns. Then you have a multitude of other threats your opponent has to deal with so that they'll be forced to either let the Trygon survive or allow your other units to run rampant through their lines. (Flyrants, Gargoyles, Ymgarl Genestealers and spore podded devilgants, devilfex, Zoanthropes and the Doom are all great for this as well as being effective units on their own)

[evilm0nkey]

Target saturation is the key indeed. As a rule i'd say if your going to field a trygon have atleast 2 in your list.

Its so awesome to kill 5-7 marines in one round of CC, if you have only one it will probably never get in CC, its too big and scary.