Doom of malan'tai

[ohsnap143]

Is the Doom worth taking?
I heard its pretty useful to stick him in a mycetic spore, and drop him around a bunch of enemy infantry to leech them and suck up wounds.

But then i realized, despite being a zoanthrope character, he needs to be in synapse range, otherwise he will just charge at something instead of being able to use his psychic ability.

Is he worth it? How would you recommend using him?

[halvar]

he's got ld10, he won't "just charge something". and you'll want to deploy him in a mycetic spore, so no synapse problem the turn he arrives either, which makes it a turn 3 issue at the earliest. so it'll be an issue only in hammer and anvil fights.

[Lanesend]

Also remember that his spirit leech ability still works when he is in combat, in both your own and the enemies turn.
It might even be a good idea to "hide" him in combat, because he normally dies to str. 8 weapons. Just be careful of powerfists.

[silentdeath]

Unless he goes for biomancy
Iron arm and enfeeble are both great to counter S8 instant death
Endurance for more survivabilty
Warpspeed for the killing spree

[Lanesend]

^true!
I don't play the DOOM very often, and I never switched Cataclysm for BRB powers, because it's only one roll on the chart, but now I think about it, these three look pretty useful.

You would of course hope for Iron Arm. If you get that and live beyond turn one, the DOOM will be almost unkillable......

[dakkathrope]

I usually get doom into combat as soon as possible. He is much more durable in melee than being subject to every s8+ gun on the field. Just be careful when you deploy him to either avoid power weapons or make efforts to remove that risk.

[kenji10000]

Oct 24, 2012 14:45:07 GMT dakkathrope said:

I usually get doom into combat as soon as possible. He is much more durable in melee than being subject to every s8+ gun on the field. Just be careful when you deploy him to either avoid power weapons or make efforts to remove that risk.

Powerfists are on issue but not power weapons, worst case he fails his invul and takes a wound. Its better than being squished

[dakkathrope]

I meant powerfists, my space marine lingo is lacking

[sunshine]

Personally, I think the best power for the doom is the primaris power in the telepathy school, Psychic Shriek. It's basically his ability with increased range and focused on one unit!

[core6188]

For your first question. Doom is worth more, the more enemy units that are on the field. I usually don't take him at 500 or 750, but in 1000pt and up go for it.

Always, always, always put Doom in a spore. When you drop him in try to place his figure within 6" of as many enemy units as you can. This is to do the most damage with his spirit leech. (Keep in mind they don't get armor save against this, but they do get cover saves. So, try to position Doom to prevent cover saves.)

I have had this initial move kill as many as sixteen marines. But trust me, I use Doom a lot and that is NOT common.

As for his psychic power I usually keep Cataclysm. Even if you don't kill any on the that first leech you still have 4 strength AP1 Large Blast. This ability also does a D3 wounds to doom, after the ability is fired and before any wounds can be healed by his Absorb Life ability. I don't always fire, but it's nice to have. (Again they get no armor save, but they do get cover. Just keep that in mind.

[stormbreed]

Oct 24, 2012 4:39:03 GMT ohsnap143 said:

Is the Doom worth taking?
I heard its pretty useful to stick him in a mycetic spore, and drop him around a bunch of enemy infantry to leech them and suck up wounds.

But then i realized, despite being a zoanthrope character, he needs to be in synapse range, otherwise he will just charge at something instead of being able to use his psychic ability.

Is he worth it? How would you recommend using him?

Q: Tyranid Special Characters. Are Tyranid Special Characters
considered to be special versions of the standard creatures of their type
for the purposes of using psychic powers, biomorphs and special rules?
For example, is the Swarmlord considered to be a Hive Tyrant for the
purposes of using Hive Tyrant psychic powers? Similarly, is
Deathleaper considered to be a Lictor for the purposes of Chameleonic
Skin and Pheromone Trail, is the Doom of Malan’tai considered to be a
Zoanthrope for the purposes of Warp Field, is Old One Eye considered
to be Carnifex for the purposes of Living Battering Ram and are
Ymgarl Genestealers considered to be Genestealers for the purposes of
Brood Telepathy? (p56-61)
A. Yes in all cases.

Sorry that was long, but Doom has the Warp Field and thus should also have the synapse rule, on top of that fearless (weird), so i wouldn't worry to much about him having issues. He is a bad dude who brings death where he goes.

[hadriel]

Oct 27, 2012 13:56:54 GMT stormbreed said:

Oct 24, 2012 4:39:03 GMT ohsnap143 said:

Is the Doom worth taking?
I heard its pretty useful to stick him in a mycetic spore, and drop him around a bunch of enemy infantry to leech them and suck up wounds.

But then i realized, despite being a zoanthrope character, he needs to be in synapse range, otherwise he will just charge at something instead of being able to use his psychic ability.

Is he worth it? How would you recommend using him?

Q: Tyranid Special Characters. Are Tyranid Special Characters
considered to be special versions of the standard creatures of their type
for the purposes of using psychic powers, biomorphs and special rules?
For example, is the Swarmlord considered to be a Hive Tyrant for the
purposes of using Hive Tyrant psychic powers? Similarly, is
Deathleaper considered to be a Lictor for the purposes of Chameleonic
Skin and Pheromone Trail, is the Doom of Malan’tai considered to be a
Zoanthrope for the purposes of Warp Field, is Old One Eye considered
to be Carnifex for the purposes of Living Battering Ram and are
Ymgarl Genestealers considered to be Genestealers for the purposes of
Brood Telepathy? (p56-61)
A. Yes in all cases.

Sorry that was long, but Doom has the Warp Field and thus should also have the synapse rule, on top of that fearless (weird), so i wouldn't worry to much about him having issues. He is a bad dude who brings death where he goes.

wouldnt it say it in the profile if he had it though? i am just looking to make sure before i deploy him and say he does

[fullnid]

The faq pretty much says that he has all that stuff. At least that entry in it.

[rpricew]

Even though the Doom is considered a Unique version of the Zoanthrope, the Doom doesn't have Synapse, but he does have Warp Field. Being a permissive rule set, it must be listed in his entry or specifically listed in the FAQ entry to give him Synapse. Warp Field is listed in his Codex entry, where Synapse is not.

It does specifically says that he has an instinctive behavior "Feed". However, per 6th edition, he won't necessarily Rage toward the nearest enemy anymore, but he also won't be able to shoot his "Cataclysm", or other Psychic Shooting attack, if he fails his IB test.

[hadriel]

Oct 27, 2012 20:47:54 GMT rpricew said:

Even though the Doom is considered a Unique version of the Zoanthrope, the Doom doesn't have Synapse, but he does have Warp Field. Being a permissive rule set, it must be listed in his entry or specifically listed in the FAQ entry to give him Synapse. Warp Field is listed in his Codex entry, where Synapse is not.

It does specifically says that he has an instinctive behavior "Feed". However, per 6th edition, he won't necessarily Rage toward the nearest enemy anymore, but he also won't be able to shoot his "Cataclysm", or other Psychic Shooting attack, if he fails his IB test.

thanks for the clarification, so now i know when i deploy my devil gaunt in tandem with him they wont be in synapse