Pedro Rhino Sternguard list 1850

[evilm0nkey]

With the improvements to the rapid fire, combat squading and general reduced cover rules I'm thinking of fielding a sternguard heavy list.

HQ
Pedro Kantor 175
Librarian (Null zone / Gate) 100

Troops
10 Tactical squad -Flamer ML in Rhino 205
5 Tactical squad 90

Elites
10 Sternguard, 5 combimelta's in Rhino 310
10 Sternguard, 5 combimelta's in Rhino 310
5 TH/SS Terminators 200

Heavy
Landraider with multi melta 260

Fast
3 Bikes, 2 melta and 1 combimelta 120
1 Attack Bike MM 50

Total 1820 pts

I dont like to suicide droppod a unit in so I'm playing the more reserved way with rhino's.

A combat squaded unit can ride the same transport. In an objective game I can have up to 7 scoring units if I combat squad all units.

I do lack range but I'm unsure what to change if anything, I also have some points left for upgrades and such.

If you could provide me with some feedback that would be awesome!

As a side note my regular opponents are Terminator heavy Space wolves and all-round Eldar.

[orkblasta]

hmmm I actually run a similar list with Pedro so i understand the workings of running this sort of list.

as for your list I would suggest dropping the librarian and the bikers. I would then switch out the veterans rhinos for razorbacks with lascannons, then split the veteran squads sticking the meltas in the razorbacks and the others foot slog. As for your HQ I would take a terminator captain to leed your termies into combat. Also instead of the bikers I suggest taking a devastator squad with either missile launchers or lascannons for the ranged anti tank ability. I'm not sure where this will put you as far as point value but you be sitting at a similar point value.

overall though, I like the list and the game play, deffs one of my fav space marine characters that pedro.

cheers

[evilm0nkey]

Thanks for your reply!!

You bring up some solid points but I haven't been able to fit it all in a 1850 pt list so still some tough decisions to make.

I really like your idea to change to razorbacks, I'll give it a try

[evilm0nkey]

I made some changes to the list:

HQ
Pedro Kantor 175
Chaplain with PF 115

Troops
10 Tactical squad - Flamer & ML
sarg combiflamer
Razorback TL Las 255

5 scouts + ML 85

Elites
9 Sternguard, 5 combimelta's
sarg Powerfist
Rhino 310

10 Sternguard, 5 combimelta's
Razorback TL Las 350

5 TH/SS Terminators 200

Heavy
Landraider with multi melta 260

Fast
1 Attack Bike MM 50
1 Attack Bike MM 50

Total 1850 pts

Pedro now rides with the 9 sternguard in the rhino, giving the unit some CC potential and allowing him to use his orbital bombardment out of the hatch
The Scout squad and the combat squaded tacticals form 2 backfield units with MLaunchers.
The 2 twin linked LC razors also add some ranged shooting

The chaplain joins the terminators for rerolls to hit in CC. The Pedro rhino moves forward with the LR in support.

The fists on the Chaplain and the Sternguard veteran add some more CC potential against terminators/walkers/MC's

A change for the good? any comments?

[DukeMantis]

I think thats a good list, it has mobility, alot of firepower and the ability to bash something in hand to hand combat!

[paxmiles]

I don't like the list. I would change a bunch, but it would be my list at that point and not yours. Ultimately your list, not mine.

I will mention that if you can find 10pts, Chaplain Cassius is one of the values in the codex. He would also fit better with sternguard, as he has hellfire rounds and a combi-flamer.

I do think you'll run into issues with the 11-man sternguard squad (added chappy), assuming you plan to foot slog them into range. Strongly suggest either a bigger transport (the LR would do nicely), or heavy weapons.

Beyond these, my suggestions are all big changes, which do not really conform to critique on the list.
-Pax