6th ed. Shrike Builds & Useage

[fleetofclaw]

Aug 24, 2012 18:25:59 GMT gloomfang said:

Aug 20, 2012 4:14:53 GMT ravengoescaw said:

I use old metal gargoyle wings for mine.

I used gargoyals as the base of mine as it was cheaper (I did a tutorial on how I did it that is buried someplace on here.)

As for load out. I originally did them with dual BS and Rending and AG. I used to use them to hunt hard targets and light mech. Now that I can use guants to kill light mech I just give them dual BS and ScyTal and Toxin; mostly TEQ hunters now. I almost never charge them into cover though. I tend to lurk near the back and then use them use them to intercept scoring units on thier way to an objective.

I'm telling you man, that extra 5 points per model for lash whips is clutch, you can tear up all manner of dedicated cc units (high initiative models) with impunity and improve your survivability. You will not be disappointed if you make the switch.

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[ranmafan]

After a few games today, seems like Lash Whips and Adrenal Glands are highly situational.

Today I fought an Ork Warboss Biker w/ Cybork body - he was T6 and had S10 w/ a Power Fist and was a beast to fight. He basically massacred my Shrikes because I failed to kill him on the charge due to requiring 6es to wound rather than 5s, while the Lash Whips were useless. OTOH a Blood Angels army I fought later in the day were quite easy to kill without the AG, but having the Lash Whips helped because they had all manner of nasty CC weapons, which I managed to thin out due to them being I1.

Unfortunately I couldn't use both because of the point limit... but actually swapping out biomorphs and weapons shouldn't be too hard if you know the enemy you're facing.

[DarkGuard]

I would never take adrenal glands on Warriors/Shrikes. You're S4 anyway, toxin sacs work out better against most things, especially as most things you'll face are likely T4 or less. Toxin sacs gives you rerolls against most things and makes the tougher things easier to wound.

[fleetofclaw]

Aug 25, 2012 15:00:15 GMT ranmafan said:

After a few games today, seems like Lash Whips and Adrenal Glands are highly situational.

Today I fought an Ork Warboss Biker w/ Cybork body - he was T6 and had S10 w/ a Power Fist and was a beast to fight. He basically massacred my Shrikes because I failed to kill him on the charge due to requiring 6es to wound rather than 5s, while the Lash Whips were useless. OTOH a Blood Angels army I fought later in the day were quite easy to kill without the AG, but having the Lash Whips helped because they had all manner of nasty CC weapons, which I managed to thin out due to them being I1.

Unfortunately I couldn't use both because of the point limit... but actually swapping out biomorphs and weapons shouldn't be too hard if you know the enemy you're facing.

Toxin sacs, toxin sacs, toxin sacs. You died to the warboss because of the lack of that essential piece of kit. Toxin sacs and lash whips makes you an all around beat stick. Adrenal glands are not needed unless you're going to use rending claws and hunt vehicles, but that is not what shrikes shine at.

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[gigasnail]

i'd have to weigh in w/ fleet on this one.

[forteh]

Played a 1500 point friendly against my friends spacewolves last night and tested out 3 LW/BS shrikes with a 10 strong gargoyle brood.

I assaulted his thunderwolf cavalry HQ deathstar, he missed both of his 2 bolt pistol overwatch shots, with careful positioning and charge planning the gargs got into the thunderwolf entourage whilst the three shrikes were all base to base with his wolf lord (runic armour, TH/SS, saga of the bear). The gargs took down two of the wolves between them! The shrikes scored 8 hits on his lord and failed all wound rolls! Needless to say all three died instantly

Unfortunately I had neglected to add the toxin sacs to the shrikes; also I should have assaulted with a screen of gargoyles between the wolf lord and not pushed to get the shrikes in base to base - dropping to twin bone swords would have saved some of the points for the toxin as I didn't need the the initiative debuff of the lashwhips.

Lesson learned, need more shrikes though!

[Psychichobo]

I would've looked somewhere else in your list rather than ditch the lash whip - just because it's not useful in that situation doesn't mean it's not useful in others.


Still, sounds like Shrikes are being used in the same manner as always - lash whip/bonesword, toxin sacs, then zoom off down flanks to butcher some poor elite sod.

[forteh]

That is very true, I suppose it would depend on if I knew what army I was facing, against high I across the board then yes lash whips would be a must. The extra D6 to cause ID on his lord would have been pointless as he had saga of the bear (eternal warrior), however they would have chewed through the thunderwolf entourage pretty quickly with twin swords. Point taken, I will run with whips in future!