advice on tyranids

[ptsgpbk]

what you see is what you get

[sturm]

Read your codex.
Buy models, lots.


If you want something useful, be specific. What do you want advice on? Painting? Modeling? Conversions? Strategies? Army lists?

[bloodborne]

yeah... vague questions really don't help us help you.....

[wisdomseyes1]

Edited version of the question: how does WYSIWYG correlate with tyranid biomorphs you can't see (ie: toxin sacs)

Answer. You can just say that is there. Just like grenades.

[bloodborne]

heh... nice one wisdom...

[swarm492]

Im going to go with read your codex as well, mines falling apart I'm inside its pages so often.

[sturm]

Aug 15, 2012 2:24:43 GMT swarm492 said:

I'm inside its pages so often.

That's the way it likes it.

[dirkspair]

my advice to you, take what you have or make up a basic army and play, then play, then play some more.
expect to loose, pay your dues. figure out what your army is lacking and compensate. then play some more. rinse and repeat.

start with the following units, none of them are bad and together they are a fun army.

HQ

tyranid prime or hive tyrant (winged HT is good fun)

Elite

hive guard
zoanthropes
the doom in a pod
ymgarl stealers

Troops

genestealers
termagaunts (they rock with devourers)
hormagants
tervigon
warriors (a bit prone to getting instagibbed though)

fast attack

gargoyles
harpy
raveners (also prone to getting IDed but fast enough to get there with a bit of skill and luck)

heavy support

trygon
mawlock
biovores


start small and mess around with those, proxy till you find stuff that works for you, then settle on an army and play it till you are good with it, try to avoid counteracting games lost by changing your army all the time, stick with something and learn to wield it against anybody.


other then army specific stuff:

learn the rules and how they apply to you, specially movement and challenges and such
learn the rules for your army, synapse and other special rules that apply to your units like rending, preferred enemy, furious charge etc.
learn as much as you can about armies you face, realize what they can do and learn to recognize threats you need to take care off. (this also helps with people trying to pull a fast one on you, no matter if intentional or not)
have fun with it, a game is just a game, assume that you loose so if you draw or win it will be a pleasant surprise. concentrate on learning first, later concentrate on kicking butt

[N.I.B.]

Aug 14, 2012 19:58:52 GMT ptsgpbk said:

what you see is what you get

I see a troll.

[eldar88]

Aug 15, 2012 1:19:57 GMT wisdomseyes1 said:

Edited version of the question: how does WYSIWYG correlate with tyranid biomorphs you can't see (ie: toxin sacs)

Answer. You can just say that is there. Just like grenades.

can i just point out that Grenades & Toxin Sacs can and must be shown on the models even on gaunts, so as i found out at my local store a while back, even Grey Knight termies must have the Grenades shown on the model.
so in short, WYSIWYG DOES APPLY TO GRENADES AND TOXIN SACS ETC

[Tempests Wrath]

Aug 15, 2012 11:53:26 GMT eldar88 said:

Aug 15, 2012 1:19:57 GMT wisdomseyes1 said:

Edited version of the question: how does WYSIWYG correlate with tyranid biomorphs you can't see (ie: toxin sacs)

Answer. You can just say that is there. Just like grenades.

can i just point out that Grenades & Toxin Sacs can and must be shown on the models even on gaunts, so as i found out at my local store a while back, even Grey Knight termies must have the Grenades shown on the model.
so in short, WYSIWYG DOES APPLY TO GRENADES AND TOXIN SACS ETC

And if you point out to me where in our codex it shows us what these biomorphs look like I will happily model them as WYSIWYG

[ptsgpbk]

i have not got a codex cus i am starting and only started warhammer last october i only have 2 termagants(one needed converting for a devourer) and 12 hormagaunts
basically how is it best to run tyranids what is the best units to run and what are good biomorphs and weapons i will be posting my starter army for everyone in the tactics/army list pages

[brucelich]

I know gaunts and fexes have those biomorphs included in their box kit. Im guessing other kits have them too but im not a 100% so...

anyhow, the gland is the circular bit that you find typically on the back of the models. The toxin sacs are the tear drop shaped ones that are usually attached on the forearms.

That being said, i don't put them on ANY of my models because i personnaly dont like them. I've never been called out for that either. In my area, WYSIWYG has never been respected because it limits creativity from players and because we all know it's just a cheap trick for GW to make more money. Most of us accept our opponents proxying some stuff they're missing. For Crying out loud, tournaments sometime accept "counts as" armies... Tabletop wise, that's so much worse than a little gaunt missing a toxin sac...

[demoric]

I would call shenanigans on wysiwyg on standard war gear and toxin sacs, Heck gw themselves don't always sculpt wargear on their own models. Look at a lot of the space marine hq choices.
Also it is a good argument that our dex never specifically shows toxin sacs, I can find pictures of adrenal glands (but even those aren't named).

[housecawdor]

I play a DE player, and I usually find myself fighting a squad of warriors, a raider 'counting as' a razorwing, and 5 kg's of bases.
WYSIWYG is important, at least to an extent.