New psychic rules are amazing!!

[Osedaxx]

I just have to say that when things go well for your psychic rolls, Nids can just rape face.

I played a 1750 game against a SW/BA list. And I "almost" felt bad for him.

My list

Swarmlord w/ 2 Guard w/LW
Telepathy powers
- Invis
- Halucination
- Dominate
- Primaris

3 x Hive Guard
6 x Ymgarls
2 x Venomthropes

1 x Tervigon
- Crushing claws
- Toxin Sacs
- Catalyst - Replace with Biomancy
- Onslaught - Replace with Biomancy

30 x Termagaunt

10 x Genestealers + BL

20 Gargoyles

1 Trygon

I was "lucky" and got the WnD and FNP Biomancy psychic from my Tervigon. With Invis from the Swarmlord and WnD,FNP from the Tervigon, my Gargoyles were able to hit his lines with only 3 losses and then ruined his life. With the Preff Enemy as well they are just painful.

Thats not even including the other scary stuff that's waiting in reserve. By the time the Ymgarls and Tyrgon came in on Turn 3, it was already over.

I know there's a lot of chance when you're counting on rolls to get the right powers. But when there are 4 possible rolls to get Invis from your Swarmlord and 3 rolls to get FNP from your Tervigon, chances are that you'll get what you want.

While 'Nids may not be top tier quite just yet, they sure can be quite mean when things go your way.

How have your guy's experiance been with the new powers?

[omnivore]

Warp Speed on a Tyrant is just...mean.

[DarkGuard]

The phrase in that post is "when things go well". When they go badly you've just lost a massive advantage. Part of using the new Psychic Disciplines is minimising bad rolls. For example, Swarmlord uses a discipline where all the powers are decent and he can use them all. Or a Broodlord using a discipline where it can actually use the Primaris power. And of course, just take a ton of psykers to get the best powers. My recent list had Swarmlord, two Zoanthropes, two Broodlords and a Tervigon. While the Tervigon didn't swap out powers, the rest did, and I think I had about 7 different psychic powers available to me, which is nice.

Also remember that the Tervigon can swaps out Dominate as well when taking BGB powers, so she gets 3 rolls on the psychic power tables.

[fragile]

You mean Dominion DG ?

Also Im curious to the order you got your powers in? You have a frown next to the Primaris power, what did you swap for it ? If you got Invis and Hallucinate first, did you consider switching over to Biomancy ?

[DarkGuard]

Dominion is indeed what I meant.

[rollawaythestone]

Telekinesis on the broodlord is amazing. You are guaranteed to get powers he can use, unlike some of the other disciplines. Gate of Infinity won me a game yesterday, and Obj. Mechanicum and Telekine Dome can be a great defensive powers to help get the stealers into combat. I am always going to trade the Broodlord's powers in for TK.

[N.I.B.]

I have a hard time picturing how 17 S3 Gargoyles can ruin anyone's life. Unless they like, had a really bad list and was a bad player. In which case you would win anyway. They are great against infantry, but can't scratch a vehicle.

[Moontyranid]

Aug 5, 2012 15:35:42 GMT omnivore said:

Warp Speed on a Tyrant is just...mean.

iron arm not


hmmmm swarmlord iron arm+warp speed

[omnivore]

With the new psychic powers I think Swarmy's price tag just got a lot more reasonable.

[Lanesend]

^ Indeed!

I see a lot of people spamming Telepathy on the Swarmlord. Which is understandable, considering the two WC2 powers.
But I think that spamming Biomancy is worth a lot on the Swarmlord. Especially for that combo.

[swarmy]

I think telepathy is by far my favorite discipline so far. It makes broodlord commando squads somewhat more useful when they are dominating/terrifying out of woods/ruins. I'm trying out a swarmlord this Tuesday for the first time ever; definitely using telepathy. It looks like I picked the right edition to do it in.

[gloomfang]

I put TK on Swarmy. Gate helps with his speed (a big boost), TK Dome gives him a 5++ vs shooting and OM is always nice. Not a big fan of Shockwave or Void, but Assail is not a horrible power for him either.

I have to learn that once I get OM and/or Gate to just roll the rest of his powers in Biomancy.

[bigpig]

...and when things don't go well its not so good .

I got back from Golden Throne GT last night. Made it to the semi final round before facing off against eldrad in a deathstar build with Vect, Fuegan, and Harlequins. A few bad rolls on the powers chart (Fyrant got Life Leech and Haemorage, only one Endurance on one Tervigon) and the problems of getting past Runes of Warding really hamstrung me. I'll try to post a batrep later on my final game.

[gloomfang]

Aug 6, 2012 16:04:52 GMT bigpig said:

...and when things don't go well its not so good .

I got back from Golden Throne GT last night. Made it to the semi final round before facing off against eldrad in a deathstar build with Vect, Fuegan, and Harlequins. A few bad rolls on the powers chart (Fyrant got Life Leech and Haemorage, only one Endurance on one Tervigon) and the problems of getting past Runes of Warding really hamstrung me. I'll try to post a batrep later on my final game.

Eldrad is an issue. So are SW runic items.

Of course Eldrad hates SitW so it evens out. Not sure why that Deathstar is effective. I look forward to the battle report.

Edit: I tend to have a few "Kill the guy with the Ball" units for Rune Priests and Eldrad. Not sure how well it would work against a Deathstar. Carnifax in a pod and Deathleaper tend to destroy most things though in a turn or two.

[swarmy]

Aug 6, 2012 16:46:52 GMT gloomfang said:

Aug 6, 2012 16:04:52 GMT bigpig said:

...and when things don't go well its not so good .

I got back from Golden Throne GT last night. Made it to the semi final round before facing off against eldrad in a deathstar build with Vect, Fuegan, and Harlequins. A few bad rolls on the powers chart (Fyrant got Life Leech and Haemorage, only one Endurance on one Tervigon) and the problems of getting past Runes of Warding really hamstrung me. I'll try to post a batrep later on my final game.

Eldrad is an issue. So are SW runic items.

Of course Eldrad hates SitW so it evens out. Not sure why that Deathstar is effective. I look forward to the battle report.

Edit: I tend to have a few "Kill the guy with the Ball" units for Rune Priests and Eldrad. Not sure how well it would work against a Deathstar. Carnifax in a pod and Deathleaper tend to destroy most things though in a turn or two.

So how are you guys playing out the Eldrad vs. SitW thing? Do you guys go with the current FAQ "they cancel each other out" thing? They roll 2D6 as per normal inside SitW? I played vs. Eldar over the weekend and that was very obnoxious rolling 3D6 over and over...