Vs Necrons?

[danielhayman]

Do you guys have any suggestions vs necrons ? I have a 1500 game tomorrow , and I'm not very good :3

I have a Trygon, Tervigon,carnifex, 55 genestealers , 45 termagants,30 hormagaunts, lictor and a deathleaper, flyrant and a swarmlord , 1 tyrant guard - 2 broodlords, doom conversion , 5 warriors , about 8 gargoyles :/ and 3 raveners and a biovore - to the best of my memory - my friend has
A necron battle force , some lychguard, an overlord - and imotehk if I'm not mistaken

:/ as I said - I fail at army lists - I like to over upgrade things :/

[Deleted]

Biovores sound great against necrons. No armor, no cover 4+ wounding pie plates starting on turn 1? Yes please! In fact, I'd proxy an extra Biovore if I were you.

[wisdomseyes1]

No vehicles? It's your lucky day, what I have been hearing is necrons are powerful because of their fliers. Biovores are in fact the best way to deal with their Weaker armor and make them die in droves.

Gauss, to my knowledge, doesn't do anything to our MC's

So a list I would use would likely include a prime HQ, tervigan and small unit of devil gants, a few medium sized units of hormagaunts with TS, a trygon, a biovore or 2, and the Raveners. The prime would use the devilgants as wounds and maintain synapse while running or shooting, based in the situation, getting into position to score at the end of the game. A support or killing tervigan is totally up to preference or dice rolls on the psychic chart. Hormagaunts will run every turn- trying to get to close combat. Avoid losing synapse though, shooting without synapse means without fearless means you run away.

Raveners are a bit more stable though, having durability with the number of models and wounds.

Trygon marches unless the situation calls for otherwise (an it won't likely). Massive strength 4 fire (I think) he is going to need to focus fire on the monstrous creatures to have a chance, or he can focus on the more fragile gants, which will leave the MC's unimpeeded.

I don't think with the models you have compared to him you will har any issues

[Deleted]

Yeah, 3 Biovores would hammer the (please do not swear) out of his troops.

[danielhayman]

How would you go about dealing with a ghost ark ? And thanks guys - though I don't really proxy things :3 I'm weird like

[wisdomseyes1]

Our best solution to fliers is anything twin linked. Popular tactic right now is dual devourers.

[dirkspair]

Just to let you all know, necron gauss weapons do have a special boost against nids. If you slap Iron Arm on a TMC and end up with a T9 the gauss weapons will still wound on a 6. Kinda annoying actually after loling off bolters and heavy bolters from space marines and such.

[brucelich]

Just to let you all know, necron gauss weapons do have a special boost against nids. If you slap Iron Arm on a TMC and end up with a T9 the gauss weapons will still wound on a 6. Kinda annoying actually after loling off bolters and heavy bolters from space marines and such.

Not in the newer version of the codex. This would've been valid up until last November sir Gauss no longer wounds on a roll of 6 regardless of toughness... It only kept the glancing part.. Which is already powerful enough...

As for the OP, like the others have said:
-Biovores will do wonders against warriors
-keep your MCs and ICs away from any lord/overlord that has the MSS wargear
-raveners are insanely good now so i would definitely recommend them
-As for biomorphs, just dont go too crazy; id recommend RCs on the raveners and TS on the gribbies. Thats about it for upgrades from my perspective.

Good luck!

[dirkspair]

no more wounding any T on a 6? that's it, my rules lawyer is fired!

cool, thanks for letting me know, i am old and some things that are set in my mind are hard to get rid off.

[DarkGuard]

A general rule of thumb vs Necrons is to take them out in combat. With a low initiative and inability to use RP if they fail a morale check, you can wipe entire squads out easily. Of course, do be careful about overwatch shooting, especially if that unit is wielding tesla weaponry, which are some of the best overwatch weapons in the game due to the extra hits they can gain.

[killme304]

Biovores will eat warriors like crazy, but Immortals have marine stat lines (3+ armor, nearly all the other stats are 4 except I and A). If that is all he has, you are in good shape just off that one model.

A necron battleforce comes with an ark kit, if he made it into a ghost ark its going to be hard to kill a giant blob of warriors outside of winning combat -> sweeping.
If he built it as a Doomsday Ark, he can remove large numbers of models in a single shot as long as he doesn't move around much.

His best bet will be to sit back with warriors holding backfield objectives, and everything else kiting you around as best they can, blowing you away at range. A ravener will be able to outpace him and catch his things, and apart from a few units (his lychguard for example), necrons are terrible in combat. Win combat and you can easily sweep them with anything that isn't I1. Before the battle, find out if he put Mindshackle Scarabs on anything, and never charge that unit with a character or a MC unless the model with them is dead. Ask NIB how much he loves them.

[jofan32]

If he has a c'tan shard take him out with gants using toxin sacs absolute comedy :-)