Confirm or deny?

[1b2a]

I didn't looked around and could not find a single place in the rulebook that said that you could not walk through friendly models. So can we walk through friendly models now? I would say yes. New rules; old assumptions out the window. Or if I simply missed it where is it?

[questioner]

It says on the first page of the Movement section that "A model cannot move within 1" of any enemy model unless they are charging into close combat in the Assault phase" So yes, you can move through enemy models- if you can do so without entering within 1" of them at any point. Which is fairly hard, I'd imagine.

[halos]

He's referring to moving through friendly models questioner.

I'm pretty sure the rules are the same as in 5th edition (ie, you can't move through friendly units) and I think there's some reference in the new book which confirms this, but I'll go have a more in depth look now.

Edit: I had a quick scan and couldn't find anything in the Movement or General rules; however there is a mosewhat relevant quote on pg 30 which says fleeing models can be trapped by friendly units, which suggests that you cannot move through them and I'm just missing the direct rule somewhere.

[1b2a]

Well it says with regards to falling back units that doesn't imply that it is always the case. Logically that's too much of an assumption.

[Bot]

It is funny actually. In 5th edition, Models counted as impassable terrain, but I haven't been able to find that part in the 6th edition rules. Hopefully they will clear it up soon enough in an FAQ.

[mhqvick]

I say they cant move trough freindly units.
page 21 says: ....a chargeing unit make their charge move following the same rules as in the movement phace, with the exeption that they can be moved within 1" of enemy models. Chargeing units cannot move trough freindly or enemy models.....

the only exxeption from movement phase is that the may go b2b with enmys. So second sentence "cannot move trough frendly... is just repeating the rules for the movement phase ( with they forgot too mention in the movement sector)

[coredump]

Here's the deal.

There are several places in the rules where they refer to the rule that you can't walk through friendly models; or remind you of the rule that you can't; or something similar.

They never, unfortunately, actually wrote that rule down.

A lot of passages assume it exists....

[mhqvick]

I bet they just forgot it (:

[Psychichobo]

Oh dear GW...

[Deleted]

With the accounts people have pulled up I'd say no. There's no way they can cover every possble detail, this is one of those things.

[fragile]

Its one of the many rules that GW "assumed" that we know. It was in older editions and got overlooked into 6th. Page 30 references two instances of where you cannot move through other units.

It was clearly spelled out in 5th in the movement section.

[gloomfang]

The charge part of this conversation has somethin sort of OT, but important. If you shoot a hole in a screening unit, because closest modles are removed first, you can charge through the hole to hit they unit they were protecting.

[Jabberwocky]

You have to charge the unit you shot at though, assuming doing this with 1 unit, so will need to multi-charge to hit both units, which in 6e isn't very pleasant.

[halvar]

or shoot with a shooty unit and assault with a assaulty unit?

I think I'll try to cut someone off from regaining coherency next game I'll play.

[1b2a]

Jul 28, 2012 20:59:45 GMT mhqvick said:

I say they cant move trough freindly units.
page 21 says: ....a chargeing unit make their charge move following the same rules as in the movement phace, with the exeption that they can be moved within 1" of enemy models. Chargeing units cannot move trough freindly or enemy models.....

the only exxeption from movement phase is that the may go b2b with enmys. So second sentence "cannot move trough frendly... is just repeating the rules for the movement phase ( with they forgot too mention in the movement sector)

Again it implies that you can't go through enemy models. It also specifies IN COMBAT you can't move through friendlies. Still, logically moving through during the movement/run phases are fair game.