Attention Everyone.

[rehkal]

You know. All of you complaining about the metal venomthropes have clearly never assembled the fourth (I think) edition metal gargoyles.

It would be easier to assemble the venomthrope by putting all the pieces in a box with glue and shaking it all up then trying to assemble those older metal gargoyles.

[Overread]

I still recall the old metal hormagaunts - how they made it to production still bemuses me as not a single one would ever actually stand up without adding a weigh to the back of the base. (for those who don't know them, imagine a hormagaunt - now imagine its solid metal and pitched forward at a stronger angle and jumping off its back legs ---- and all on a little round plastic base.

[Illithid]

I have about 10 of them Overmind - they are extremely hard to balance. Many of the old metal tyranids are hard to to glue.

I have a brood of old screamer-killers also, basing them and gluing them ended in tears with me throwing one through my shed wall. It then created a crater in my backyard.

[Space is pretty big]

Metal washers under the bases always works for me, but what you have to do is cut out the nubs underneath so that the washer goes in flush, otherwise it looks Hooooorable.

[maskedtyranid]

VenomthropE, Davor. Just sayin'.

[housecawdor]

Yeah, the venomthrope is a horrible model to put together. Anyone tried to put together finecast harlequins?

[Psychichobo]

Jun 15, 2012 22:45:36 GMT rehkal said:

You know. All of you complaining about the metal venomthropes have clearly never assembled the fourth (I think) edition metal gargoyles.

It would be easier to assemble the venomthrope by putting all the pieces in a box with glue and shaking it all up then trying to assemble those older metal gargoyles.

I actually found those things fairly easy to assemble. KEEPING them assembled was another matter entirely.

[Space is pretty big]

Jun 17, 2012 19:16:58 GMT Psychichobo said:

Jun 15, 2012 22:45:36 GMT rehkal said:

You know. All of you complaining about the metal venomthropes have clearly never assembled the fourth (I think) edition metal gargoyles.

It would be easier to assemble the venomthrope by putting all the pieces in a box with glue and shaking it all up then trying to assemble those older metal gargoyles.

I actually found those things fairly easy to assemble. KEEPING them assembled was another matter entirely.

Did no one hear of pinning during 3rd edition?...

[Evan Quinn]

No problems here due to magnets rocking:


Drilled deep into the models so the magnets wouldn't be seen from the outside. I also lift the tentacles up so that I can get the darn model into base contact with at least 1 model without breaking the tentacles.

Enjoy!

Evan~

[Psychichobo]

Jun 17, 2012 19:48:38 GMT Space is pretty big said:

Jun 17, 2012 19:16:58 GMT Psychichobo said:

I actually found those things fairly easy to assemble. KEEPING them assembled was another matter entirely.

Did no one hear of pinning during 3rd edition?...

They were very spindly, and transport was precarious with them when bases were involved. The only real way I found was to put a pin through the stand so you could take them off but balance them comfortably.

For a unit you normally have in large numbers though it was a thorough pain.

[rehkal]

With the gargoyles I'm thinking of. There really isn't a way to pin them and still have the base attached. Not enough metal where the wings attach to the body. Always ended up filling the hole and having to drill it out for the base as it was.

[Lanesend]

^ Yup. I tried pinning that stuff. Still fell apart.

Also the new plastic gargoyles look much better, IMO.

[Space is pretty big]

Jun 18, 2012 21:01:02 GMT rehkal said:

With the gargoyles I'm thinking of. There really isn't a way to pin them and still have the base attached. Not enough metal where the wings attach to the body. Always ended up filling the hole and having to drill it out for the base as it was.

Weird, I managed to pin them to the body without issue. I had to pin each wing individually, and you'd be surprised how beefy they were in the right places.

[pipsickness]

I have 6 of those "classic" metal gargoyles and have tried to put them together 3 times now. I've given up and will just get some of the new plastic ones. The metal venomthrope I had no problems with (aside from when I drop it having to climb under furniture to recover the tentacles) - I had more issues with the metal new style zoanthrope constantly falling over and snapping off the tail vents. Have now used heavy fishing weights under the base to balance him.

[carnogaunt]

Jun 15, 2012 20:53:50 GMT Inquisitor Stingray said:

Still, I'll take shoddy finecrap over pewter metal anyday.

Since I buy almost everything second (or third) hand these days, I find that metal is preferable because it retains its value.

I have a box of shame where I put around 25% of my used plastics. If pieces are broken or bent, or if a model needs to be re-posed, I usually can't fix it without causing further damage first, especially if the previous owner used plastic cement. I can't un-bend plastic and have it look new. If I don't have the necessary spare parts, then I can't use the model until I buy bits for it. I haven't worked with Finecast yet, but I expect similar results.

When I buy used metal, I have confidence that as long as all of the pieces are there, I can restore the model to like-new condition. Metal models can get bent and fall apart, but they seldom break; they retain their value.


Edit- Do not take this as an endorsement of metal Gargoyles. They too are in my box of shame.