Explanation for Faluire

[zangetsu]

Could someone point out flaws in this list. I ran it in a tournament and came in dead last.

1750 Vanillia Marines

Master Captian, Power Weapon, Bolt Pistol-91
Master of Sanctity Chaplian, Jump Pack, Lightning Claws, Frag Grendaes-151

Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher-110
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher-110
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher-110
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher-110
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Lascannon-115
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Lascannon-115

Assualt-8 man, 2 Plasma Pistols, Veteran Seargent with Power-Fist-216

Predator Anihilator, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Side Sponsen Heavy Bolters-138
Predator Anihilator, Smoke Launchers, Extra Armor, Side Sponsen Heavy Bolters-138

Dreadnought, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers-113
Dreadnought, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers-113
Dreadnought, Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers-113

Total Pts:1742
MC:46
AV:5

[flyingspoon]

I think that it's not your list but more how you played as tournaments can be horrible to play in with cheesey lists and so forth but i would remove a dread or two for some fire support tanks and increase the squad sizes as they could be picked off quickly

[Aux]

Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Lascannon-115

thats good

Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Missile Launcher-110

thats not

for 5 pts, your making is one less strenth, and one less AP so Las > Krak

Why are you using predator annihilators at a torny? You could hav had to whirlwinds doing the mine thing

Assualt squad is good, you have it led by a jump chaplin (WHICH IS GOOD)

Dreadnoughts should be venerable, take a custom chapter, its about 14 more points to make it venerable which is the same as that extra armor and you dont need the smokes

I've run this list and came in 1st, even managing to mow down to nidzilla lists

1500 Custom Chapter
Master of Sanctity Chaplian, Jump Pack, Frag Grendaes

Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Plasma Cannon
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Lascannon, Tank hunters
Tactical-6 man, Plasmagun, Lascannon, Tank hunters

Assualt-7 man, 2 Plasma Pistols, Veteran Seargent with Powersword

Whirlwind Castellan missiles
Whirlwind Castellan missiles
5x Dev marines 4x Hvy. Bolters

Venerable Dread w/ assualt cannon
Dread w/ assualt cannon

I didnt go much into specifics, but all I can see is the predators ended up having no effect on the games since a las/plas squad is better then them, and you had a hard time dealing with swarms... I'd like to see you chew through a hundred+ ork boyz with that