Any daemon rumors?

[happybean]

Yuk, you must be joking, the new deamonettes look like anorexique bald (or punk banshees looking) SM (not space marines) Chics. Huh, and they've put the clothes back on again! Pfff, no deamonic nippels supposed to tempt and damn the soul of mortal fools. With those new models in front of you, all you want to do is termo blast them. And certainly not spend time with one, heretics! Instead i will send you some other really hot girls! In the form of an order militant retributor heavy flamer squad with an immolator tank, you swine!
The mask of slaanesh! Interesting to know that the warp makes majorette sticks for their deamon champions. This brings me to the question, when are the pom-pom girls of slaanesh coming to a BB championship?

The foul followers of nurgle look moreless the same apart for the beast that look likes it's never going to make it to the other side of the field. Epidemius looks ok has a WH model, but defenetly not has a 40k one.

The bloodletters and flesh hounds of khorne look exactly like the ones made ten years ago! Wich at the time was already thought as ugly. Who do they think their cheating? And where's the brass armour? If you tell me, that your bloodletter has a 3+ armour save, i will break you're nose and tell you to WYSIWYG your bloodletters, righto.
The "Soul grinder"! Seriously making a model out of the famous defiler joke, what happens if you open the door, is tasteless. The thing looks ok has a drawing, but the model for it, looks odd.
Whoo, behold the bloodcrusher of khorne! A lambda new bloodletter on a juggernaught. Weee, there was a lot of brain storming on that one too.

As for tzeench, the new models, don't look like new models.

I won't speak of the Codex and the deamon army book. It's pointless. You will judge by yourselves when they appear.
In the meen time, don't get over exited

[impire113]

im still trying to choose an army and my friend told me to pick an army that looks cool and plays cool in my opinion. does anyone no more about them cause this might be my choice if i can get enough info(blood angels are my other choice)

also if i got the spearhead would i be able to use the chaos codex for some of the models(khorne bloodletters and hounds for example) to play a game with??

[impire113]

according to a poster i just saw the spearhead comes with a codex

[The Hive Mind]

Release date is 10th May! Spearheads 26th April, come with Army book/Codex.

A quick run down of Chaos Daemons:

Look to Greek mythology Zues, Aries, etc... Are the Chaos gods.
Hercules, etc... are the new Special characters and the herlds.
They might not always agree, but they do fight alongside each other.

Daemons are probibly the heavest close combat focus army in the game now, with only reall Tzeentch stuff doing shooting.

HQ

Greater Daemons
Herlds
Special Characters

(2 choices count as 1 HQ choice/Lord/Hero choice.)

Troop

All the standard Daemons, Bloodletters, Plaguebearers, Nurglings, etc...

Fast Attack

Blookcrushers, Fiends of Slannesh, Screamers, etc...

Heavy Support

Soulgrinder and Daemon Prices.

[The Hive Mind]

happybean said:

Yuk, you must be joking, the new deamonettes look like anorexique bald (or punk banshees looking) SM (not space marines) Chics. Huh, and they've put the clothes back on again! Pfff, no deamonic nippels supposed to tempt and damn the soul of mortal fools. With those new models in front of you, all you want to do is termo blast them. And certainly not spend time with one, heretics! Instead i will send you some other really hot girls! In the form of an order militant retributor heavy flamer squad with an immolator tank, you swine!
The mask of slaanesh! Interesting to know that the warp makes majorette sticks for their deamon champions. This brings me to the question, when are the pom-pom girls of slaanesh coming to a BB championship?

The foul followers of nurgle look moreless the same apart for the beast that look likes it's never going to make it to the other side of the field. Epidemius looks ok has a WH model, but defenetly not has a 40k one.

The bloodletters and flesh hounds of khorne look exactly like the ones made ten years ago! Wich at the time was already thought as ugly. Who do they think their cheating? And where's the brass armour? If you tell me, that your bloodletter has a 3+ armour save, i will break you're nose and tell you to WYSIWYG your bloodletters, righto.
The "Soul grinder"! Seriously making a model out of the famous defiler joke, what happens if you open the door, is tasteless. The thing looks ok has a drawing, but the model for it, looks odd.
Whoo, behold the bloodcrusher of khorne! A lambda new bloodletter on a juggernaught. Weee, there was a lot of brain storming on that one too.

As for tzeench, the new models, don't look like new models.

I won't speak of the Codex and the deamon army book. It's pointless. You will judge by yourselves when they appear.
In the meen time, don't get over exited

Right...

Tzeentch has no new models. Daemonetts I'll ask you one question, how many people that you know have those Daemonetts? Would you like to guess why not??? As for Khorne stuff a lot of people thought the old ones look way better so they revamped them.

As for the Codex/Army book clearly you've not read them/even seen them, they are awesome! Art, stories, lists all really nice, particularly the new Daemonic lores.

The Soulgrinder looks awesome, Daemons mixing with a machine aren't suppose to look clean cut, they are suppose to look like a mangle of immaterial and material.

When has the Bloodcrusher of Khorne been anything other than a Bloodletter on a Juggernaut? Storm of Chaos ringing any bells?

As for WYSIWG theres another saying, what do the rules say! Also whats to say that their skin isn't made up of metal armour?

The guys at the Studio have done an awesome job dude, slating their work with no real accreditation behind your comments shows a lack of knowledge on the topic. Maybe Daemons aren't your type of army and thats fine! But saying those who do like them shouldn't be excited about them is wrong! You can say I don't like this, but please don't just slag armies off without having any real in-site to what it is your talking about!

[Haraio [MALAL]]

Hear the Hive Mind speak, words of wisdom^^

As for me, I really prefer these newer Daemonettes. I think they really fit the impression that I have of them from reading descriptions and fluff. In my opinion, the old ones kinda gave me the impression of female Khornates with boobs, because they looked bloodthirsty.

The new ones, however, gives me the impression from their description:
"Unnaturally, disturbingly beatiful and horrifying at the same time." That is the feeling I get when I look at them. So for me, they are perfect^^

And sexy! I rest my case!^^

[waЯu]

I'm agreeing with happybean and adding my own two-fingered salute to the Chaos Demons.

First off, the Slaanesh models look hideous. Truely... hideous. But then that's unsurprising really considering the tremendous hash up of the Vampire Counts, which is an awful shame because the modeling work they did on the High Elves and Orks was so groin-grabbingly beautiful it's really painful to compare the models to sculpts like the new Fiends and Dire Wolves (and whoever it is out there who thinks John Blanche is an artist, it stops here... after 25 years the joke has more than lost its charm).
The Demonettes seem to be presented with all the guile and grace of fistful of damp filo pastry, the beast of Nurgle looks like a Snozzcumber, the Soulgrinder appears to have been designed by Fisher-Price and the Skulltaker is incoherent car crash of ideas that tries to poke its claw into every school of design and pleases precisely none of them.

I loved the old Demonettes, they had an understated elegant threat about them- like whisps of chlorine. I understand that nobody had armies comprising of them because they were metal and doing so would would require a substantial loan, but why not just take the metal models and make them plastic kits? We know from the Hounds of Khorne and 7th Edition Warhammer rulebook that GW have no qualms about repackaging an old product.

I haven't read the Demons codex but I've had more than a quick peek at Armybook and I really dislike it. Magical defense is notable by its absense and if you want a vaguely competitive army, you're going to be forced into building it around one of the named, God-specific Greater Demons. Which is an absolute turn-off for me who hates the D&D high-fantasy ideal of a handful of heroes changing the course of history while foot soldiers mill around, getting killed off purely to raise the profile of our heroes or just get in the way uttering nuisances like "Don't forget to reload, Dr. Freeman". I wanted a horde of steaming red demonic abominations to throw about recklessly and watch crawl over creatures of much larger size... totally undeterred by the horrific loses they were taking and slowly clawing apart everything in their path through weight of numbers like... well, like Tyranids.

I wanted Demons, I waited, I saw the models... saw the rules... Now I want Wood Elves.

[The Hive Mind]

Fair enough, although 2 things to pick apart from your post Waru, 1 the book guides you towards having a moxed army actually. "Chaos is a singal Pathon, not four seperate entities."

Number 2 you don't like the new Dire Wolves? A they look like the Resident Evil dogs, (cool) B you would rather have the ones from 6th ed?

[waЯu]

I'm not objecting to that fact that you're being suggested toward taking a mix of Gods. That's fine, that's the chips and gravy... I'd still rather go for an all Khorne force for the pleasure of developing and playing with a themed army despite that knowing it can never be a powerful as an Undivided Demons army.

What I'm objecting to is the pushing force behind the named Greater Demons, is me being forced to take "big stuff" to be vaguely competitive. I know the High Elves have their Star Dragon and it is a horrific amalgamation of flying, terror causing, initiative silly, attack value stupid death and it does win games on its own but it's always only an option... High Elves are equally as nasty with a stripped down Noble on steed or an Archmage. The option in the Demons army book is a false one, or at least it's an option between "Take a Bloodthirster or lose" if you're planning a themed Khornite force. It's like if the Tyranid codex had 2 HQ choices, a Hive Tyrant or a Broodlord; only the Broodlord was rubbish (no change there then, hawhawhawhaw obvious joke), the Tyrant was an unkillable engine of death and cost 400pts. It would kind of alienate those who preferred the horde approach.

And no, I really abhor the Dire Wolves... but while I didn't exactly like the older wolves I do prefer them. Now THIS is a nice wolf model.

But all in all, it doesn't matter. Games Workshop are still getting my money... they're just going to give me hippies in exchange for it instead of devils.



Gorgeous model...

[theevillemon]

i have to say the demonettes are not Slaaneshiey there not sexy unless you like bald chicks(eww) they had to screw up on my fav god. I'm likeing the fiends of Slaanesh tho there cool with 8 boobs and stuff but the demonettes im glad i have some of the old ones

[rakados]

I am worried Nids are no longer going to be best at close combat with the daemons coming. What do you guys think?

[Biowraith]

They cant out combat 'Steller... or can they? i havent had a chance to look at the codex yet, but the only thing really in leage with 'Stellers, are Ork boys 4 str 5 attacks on the charge...nasty.

[waЯu]

Yes, seriously... if you worry about Tyranids not being the best army on the assualt:



Worry away.

[CylonDorado]

If Chaos SM's daemons are any indication, they will propably all have invoulnerable saves, but not very good ones. So stealers probably would still have a chance, or it would be about even.

[omalley69]

Apr 21, 2008 2:18:34 GMT CylonDorado said:

If Chaos SM's daemons are any indication, they will propably all have invoulnerable saves, but not very good ones. So stealers probably would still have a chance, or it would be about even.

Pardon for the bad writing, im just so tired atm.

I saw the codex tyoday, and i must say " ME LIKES ALOT ALOT!"

true about the 5+ inv save, but all TZ deamons has 4+ og all deamons costs between 13 and 17 points (the regular onces!)

and as a fast unis u get a A4 rending slannesh deamon in units of 3 to 7 as i recall, they own.

The skulltaker rends on a 4+ that also inflicts instant death if he rend.

And for the best part; deamons are like the deathwing/lysander termies.

50% deep strike in turn 1, the rest in the following turn as i recall.

Flamers are 35 point jump infantery with wind of chaos each! 4+ inv.

And dont get me started on the deep strike a 3 soulgrinders and 2 super greater deamons. They are so "in your face!"

And deamon princes comes at 80 w/o wings

...In general, the deamon codex is a blast, but no 2+ saves, and massed fire will rip them apart, big time. The turn that they deep strik will be alot of deamon that die, and the rest will be deamon owning pretty much everything.

Deamonettes are A3 I6 fleet rending at 14 points. So genes has some serious competition.

Ok wavefeater has a 3+ rerollable INV save. so he is ok covered up, and allies within 6" may reroll all kinds of saves But he comes at 333 points.


!!!Please notify me if im not supposed to say this stuff before the release date...!!!