Model base sizes?

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Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 17:26:41 GMT

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Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 17:26:41 GMT

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At my local we have some disagreements about what size of base your allowed to place your models on. As far as i know, you have to place them on the size of base that they are sold with, comparing to the newest model in sale.

But some at the local say that it dossnt matter, and you can place obliterators and terminators on infantery bases if u like...i find that kind of cheating.

I find it okay to put models on larger bases, but with a limit.

Nurgling swarms arnt supposed to be in the renegade codex, and they arnt, so i whould not like to see my opponent spawn 15 nurglingbases as lesser deamons, and be able to assault on the turn that they land as the bases fill so much space.

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thepuritan Hive Tyrant Feed me, Seymour! Posts: 1,048	Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 18:25:28 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by thepuritan on Mar 17, 2008 18:25:28 GMT as far as i know, models can be used on the bases they were sold with or larger. older Terminators came on infantry slotta bases, and that's ok.
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Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 19:32:10 GMT

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Post by Overread on Mar 17, 2008 19:32:10 GMT

Puritan is right (its written in the rule book somewhere) the models must be used on bases they are sold with or larger. Its a balance thing - for example rippers become a whole lot more deadly on smaller bases - because you can fit more into an assault kill zone!

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Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 19:52:53 GMT

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Post by Psychichobo on Mar 17, 2008 19:52:53 GMT

I do see where you're coming from, fortunately I've never been in a situation where it's affected combat heavily. Yeah, models are supposed to be on the bases they come with, it's a balance thing. It's for the rules as well as for practicality. That thing with Nurgling swarms though is a bit too far and can be said to be cheating too along with the fact that in the miniatures gallery for space marines on the site, nurglings aren't listed as usable lesser daemons. So that's cheating outright anyway.

Hee, let them put terminators on smaller bases though - more to fit under a large blast template.

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Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 22:19:25 GMT

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Post by coredump on Mar 17, 2008 22:19:25 GMT

No, they can't put new terminators on smaller bases...

If they have the old terminators, the ones that came with smaller bases...those are okay. But they can't put new terminators on the small bases, not even if they have the old bases.

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omalley69 Tyrant Guard Posts: 453	Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 22:52:06 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 22:52:06 GMT So you guys still think that its fair to play with the old miniature range on old bases? what about placing belakor on a terminator base and use him as a deamon prince?
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Psychichobo Hive Tyrant I have a 'status' now. Get me. Posts: 9,198	Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 23:01:45 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Psychichobo on Mar 17, 2008 23:01:45 GMT Don't see the problem with Be'lakor proxying a daemon prince, if he's on the terminator base - which is the same as a Prince's base. Just treat him like one, even though he's not the exact model.
	Jun 19, 2012 11:29:32 GMT pipsickness said: There is one absolute, undeniable fact when it comes down to venomthropes: If you have one and it's one of the 3 units alive in your army, and you're on a killpoint game. The thing to remember, and I cannot stress this enough, is NOT. Repeat NOT to charge it into Abbadon the Despoiler. This does not end well.

omalley69 Tyrant Guard Posts: 453	Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 23:04:17 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 23:04:17 GMT I just thought deamon princes were on carnifex bases? pretty irritating that it dossnt say anywere...

Psychichobo Hive Tyrant I have a 'status' now. Get me. Posts: 9,198	Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 23:10:18 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Psychichobo on Mar 17, 2008 23:10:18 GMT Naah, Daemon princes are on the bases that terminators, biovores, raveners, warriors, etc get. It doesn't say, but GW expect you to buy their models and use the bases that come with them, so it's kind of a given for them.
	Jun 19, 2012 11:29:32 GMT pipsickness said: There is one absolute, undeniable fact when it comes down to venomthropes: If you have one and it's one of the 3 units alive in your army, and you're on a killpoint game. The thing to remember, and I cannot stress this enough, is NOT. Repeat NOT to charge it into Abbadon the Despoiler. This does not end well.

omalley69 Tyrant Guard Posts: 453	Model base sizes? Mar 17, 2008 23:21:57 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 23:21:57 GMT I guess so, another example of GW logic, and me being to grumpy some times.

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Model base sizes? Mar 20, 2008 23:03:33 GMT

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Post by yoritomo on Mar 20, 2008 23:03:33 GMT

Negative, old terminators do not have to be on a 40mm base to be tournament legal. A model must use the base it was supplied with or larger. It's in the rule book you can read it yourself (page 6 I think). If it's in the rule book there's nothing anyone can say that will make it illegal.

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If GW wants me to use a 40mm base then they had better be willing to supply me a free one at the door. And even then I would still probably fight it. I don't want to rip the nice base off my model, then cut metal so it will fit on a non-slotted base, then re-paint and re-base my model. It's just not worth the effort.

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coredump Influence of the Hive Mind Posts: 14,383	Model base sizes? Mar 20, 2008 23:05:29 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by coredump on Mar 20, 2008 23:05:29 GMT Do you have a source for that? The rule book says you can use the base that came with the model.
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Overread Hive Tyrant The Tyrant formally known as Overmind2000 Husky in a hat and scarf! Posts: 3,301	Model base sizes? Mar 21, 2008 0:28:03 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Overread on Mar 21, 2008 0:28:03 GMT meh - if they forced the issue best thing (after they give you that free base) is blue tack add it to the bottom of the existing base and then stick both to the new one - problem solved

Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 17:26:41 GMT

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Post by Psychichobo on Mar 17, 2008 19:52:53 GMT

Post by coredump on Mar 17, 2008 22:19:25 GMT

Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 22:52:06 GMT

Post by Psychichobo on Mar 17, 2008 23:01:45 GMT

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Post by Psychichobo on Mar 17, 2008 23:10:18 GMT

Post by omalley69 on Mar 17, 2008 23:21:57 GMT

Post by Mordheimer on Mar 20, 2008 21:20:28 GMT

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