Seeking an understanding of Fantasy

[Shas'o Tash'var Kais Pat]

mmm...vampire counts...the trouble is I can't decide between vampire counts and high elves

[waЯu]

Personally, I was very ready to don my fangs and develop a strong dislike for open sunlight until I saw the model range. As a painter before a gamer, the new VC models have genuinely killed my enthusiasm for the army, driven it to a broiling plant on the outskirts of down in an industrial JCB and sold it back to me as "Soilent Happy". Hence I'm going to be taking my vampire fund and starting a Mortal Slaanesh army with it.

But if you can't decide...

Go to the GW website and look at the HE mini range.
The go to your local GW and sweet talk them into showing you the back page of next month's White Dwarf.

Then ask yourself whose models you think are better. That should be your answer.

[flyingspoon]

Waru don't you already have a strong dislike for open sunlight anyway?

Jokes aside I would take warus advice on the models range but also look at the back story of the army rather than special rules I know people who play armies because they can make them "cheesey" the only reason they play the army. I, however, play armies because i like the stories about them and will most likely buy a book on them It's how i sarted my chaos armies both tzeentch

[speiread]

Regarding the new Vampire Counts army coming out in a few months: They are re-doing a lot of the models in plastic, which is nice, because they are finally offering a battlion (fantasy battlforce). Most of the previous models are metal and in blister packs. It costs a fortune to build a VC army at this point.

As far as point size, I am sure this has been mentioned, but you can play the same size battles as 40k, but 2k is a good number for most games. Enough to field Lord characters (they can't participate is small battles), but games don't take forever.

[flyingspoon]

yeah i lost a game in about two turns but i was playing a manager and it was Paul from manchester so i barleey had a chance though it was a peasent army....