japan haarp conspiray ! please look
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Post by Psychodrake on Mar 20, 2011 0:32:46 GMT
honestly you guys are taking it abit to seriouesly :/ i just thought it was an interesting video, i find conspiracy interesting ... and what ? i think if people don't even bother to look into these sort of things or consider them then they are being very linear minded, 'eat what you given' Unfortunately, like Genevaman said, conspiracies take off due to the fact that there are people who will actually believe such rubbish. If you watch the video without much knowledge on, well, just about everything covered, you'll probably believe it due to (Seemingly) careful piecing of each event and all the small details, but in reality, it's just people trying to turn people against people and getting their own little following. Its no different to how media can brainwash ignorant people (My Grandfather is one such person, believes everything hes told in the newspaper). It isn't a case of being linear minded, conspiracy theories are such a waste of space. What do people hope to achieve? That one day they'll be right and that the people with thwart the government? It's like some kind of comic book fantasy. I mean, it would be really cool, but I find it quite disrespectful that people find light in disasters like this to make up a load of really rubbishy conspiracy theories. This has nothing going for it for me. It was a big earthquake, the earthquake caused a tsunami, read into it any further and you're just being silly. California's coming earthquake will get a conspiracy theory too. This war against Gadaffi will have conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories are made on any major event for the reason I said above, people trying to turn people against higher powers and getting a following blah blah blah.
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Post by r2d2 on Mar 20, 2011 19:25:44 GMT
i don't get it
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Post by Aux on Mar 20, 2011 20:19:54 GMT
If you honestly believe in this kind of thing, then please; do not have children. Sums up the thread
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Post by salamut2202 on Mar 20, 2011 20:49:00 GMT
Apparently if you shoot enough mirowaves at the sky, a bit of the sky with stretch into space displacing enough air and bouncing enough of those microwaves back to what sounds like displace a tectonic plate to the degree of changing the earths rotational axis. If this doesn't make sense to you than don't worry, you're in company.
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Post by andy089 on Mar 20, 2011 21:09:09 GMT
about 9/11: most skyscrapers in urban areas have charges places in them for controlled demolition to prevent a domino-effect. As we saw on WTC 7 those can also randomly be used to destroy buildings which would otherwise have to be renovated at high costs because of extensive use of asbestos in them.
on topic: whats the mass of the earth again? And now calculate the force needed to shift the earth 1mm. And there you go-you now have the answer why this isnt working.
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Post by The Tomato on Mar 20, 2011 21:39:31 GMT
Ok, so lets say you have a machine that causes the atmosphere to push back with more energy than you pun into it. (WTH!?)
Now, considering the amount of force you would need to shift a tectonic plate said force would come down like a F**huge shere of air, s**ing up the weather in that region for several days... HOW would that go undetected?
You, sir, is either a magnificent troll or just godawfully stupid...
(Edit: when I think about it, for this to make sense said machine has been running for over 500 years)
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Post by andy089 on Mar 20, 2011 22:49:45 GMT
You, sir, is either a magnificent troll or just godawfully stupid... (Edit: when I think about it, for this to make sense said machine has been running for over 500 years) I would not call people stupid-if you don't really know what forces and energies we are talking about here you might easily get sucked into this jargon wielding rumor spreading thing. the machine (which doesn't exist as such) would need to run for a few seconds only-it would use the energy of well, I'd say the whole world used in 500 years. well lets make that 100 to be on the safe side. When we are talking about moving the earth or parts of it, it's easy to forget how heavy it actually is.
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Post by salamut2202 on Mar 21, 2011 4:52:14 GMT
Well HAARP exists, that, no one can deny. But the fact that radiation at a frequency that can MOVE THE EARTH doesn't make everyone blow up from the iron in their hemoglobin unionizing to complete a circuit and water evaporating due to the microwaves passing through every cell! I mean if there's enough radiation bouncing off the ionosphere to ionize the air creating plasma, i.e. - strip the electrons off atoms, than why weren't people at least queezy?
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Post by The Tomato on Mar 21, 2011 11:44:57 GMT
I wasn't sugesting the machine running 500 years to create the effect, but japan is hit by earthquakes time and again. Sure, this one was quite bad but the majority of the problems has been caused by the nuclear reactors, the earthquake itself is not that unusual as such.
Why would it be terrorists this time when its something that is happening quite often (about every 50 yrs)
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Post by Inquisitor Stingray on Mar 21, 2011 14:54:10 GMT
People do consider these. And thus find them unfeasible. Conspiracy theories have a habit of trying to blind people with science. Essentially, feeding them a boatload of mumbo-jumbo jargon in the hopes that they'll swallow it. But anyone with a basic understanding of physics or chemistry will quickly find the fault in their claims. Also, when you look at the big picture, these things rarely make any sense even if you pretend the evidence is solid. Anyone with a machine that controls tectonic movement and weather conditions could either practically hold the world ransom or win themselves a Nobel prize. Why all the subterfuge? Why not use the device to greater ends or just make the technology public and live like a king? +3 Internetz for you.
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Post by Tyrantor on Mar 21, 2011 15:42:05 GMT
Japan herp derp conspiracy?
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Post by hivefleetcurinus on Mar 21, 2011 19:40:31 GMT
Ok, so lets say you have a machine that causes the atmosphere to push back with more energy than you pun into it. (WTH!?) Now, considering the amount of force you would need to shift a tectonic plate said force would come down like a F**huge shere of air, s**ing up the weather in that region for several days... HOW would that go undetected? You, sir, is either a magnificent troll or just godawfully stupid... (Edit: when I think about it, for this to make sense said machine has been running for over 500 years) how am i a troll for putting this up ? it's in the general board, it was only intended because its something i find interseting, true or not, i don't think i should be punished by all you guys just for putting something up in the 'general' board, but its nice to see it has sparked up an intersest in all you guys aswell
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Post by The Tomato on Mar 21, 2011 23:11:15 GMT
Hm, I guess you are right, it is kind of amusing. I just thought you were sugesting that this was an actual feasible theory and got into a science-rage
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Post by coff on Mar 22, 2011 4:55:05 GMT
The major point I'd like to make to the poster of this video and similar 9-11 Truthers is the fact that if the US Government was half as competent, evil, and brilliant as they give them credit for the poster would have been killed before the video hit youtube and the video would've been taken down before it was put up.
I'd also like to point out in the explanation of the video he uses conspiracy math. That is to say using the number five or twenty three depending on which source you read to make something seem like part of a planned pattern. But the bottom line is with the key numbers of this theory (2 and 3) you can make any number pattern you want.
2+3=5 3-2=1 2+2=4 Ta-da fake magic conspiracy math. Any number you can dream up can be a combination of the numbers 2 and 3 by default.
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Post by Dangeresque on Mar 22, 2011 5:24:25 GMT
2+3=5 3-2=1 2+2=4 Ta-da fake magic conspiracy math. Any number you can dream up can be a combination of the numbers 2 and 3 by default. Even 112.8 million dollars!
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