Flyrant Guard

[Thlaylie]

Walkrants have Tyrant Guards, so why not Flyrant Guards for Flyrants:

[Shas'o Tash'var Kais Pat]

interesting, although they look rather midgety compared to the tyrant, kinda like meatshields...

[Pheonix]

isnt that what a tyrant guard is?

[tommien]

Nice... this breaks the "No flyrant guards" rule?

[Utah Jak]

tommien said:

Nice... this breaks the "No flyrant guards" rule?

yeah, flyrants can't have guards.

[WestRider]

They look a bit titchy for T6, 2 wound models to me. Cool models, just a bit small for what they're supposed to be. I'd use something the size of a Warrior or at least a Stealer as the base model.

Actually, those make me want Gargoyles with Scything Talons instead of their Fleshborers.

[Pheonix]

well... you could always make the trade off in toughness for wings... but that would make the tyrant easier to wound through hail of fire...

[Titan Zero]

If I were you I would count each model as 1 wound. To make up for everything you could have 6 models.

[Thlaylie]

The guard are smaller, because the Guant bodies are the only ones with the streamlined "arrow straight up in the air" look. I figure in Apocalypse, Flyrants can have guards.

[Hive Fleet Green Locust]

I hate to break it to you, but no, you cannot have Flyrant gaurd in Apocalypse. Apocalyspe just doesn't go by FOC, but you still have to abide by unit size and options. And since there is no points cost for wings on Guard, you can't field them.

Just because Apocalypse lets you field any units you want without limitation, does not mean you get to make stuff up.

You could field like 20+ Flyrants though, which would be super fun.

[thepuritan]

i know it's all illegal and such...
...but, if you're still into making them (which, are cool, BTW), you could give them the Boneshields to "explain" their high toughness.

[Thlaylie]

Who said you can't make up units as long as you provide a Datasheet? Apocalypse has no FOC rules. That's what makes Apocalypse fun, keeping it fluffy, otherwise it's just 40k on a larger scale... meh. Use the Tyrant cost for wings, 40 pts, that will keep them competitive since their stats and a Tyrant are pretty close.

[Trygon]

Dude, Apocalypse is 40k on a larger scale. If you want to use those guard in battle you need permission from all of your opponents.

[ryshi]

What i would do if you were gonna run these by opponents is reduce the armor save to 4+ and T to 5. Logically it makes sense, the guards would have a hard time flying with all that plating(considering their size).

[Hive Fleet Green Locust]

Actually, the Apoc book says you can't make up units. Apoc is a way for people to be able to use their entire collection of minis without worrying about FOC restrictions, but it does say that you still have to obey unit restrictions. Otherwise anyone could invent their own overpowered, indestructable models. Guard aren't supposed to have wings because Space Marines don't have wings and that's the DNA used to make Guard

Those are nice conversions (for gargoyles), but I cannot support them, knowing that they are invalid units. And even if your opponent lets you use them, you should have converted Warriors into flying Guard. They are much better size appropriate.

As far as rules for them, paying 40 pts for wings and leaving their stat line as is would be the best and simpliest way to go, if you do decide to throw rules out the window and use them. But you could only ever play these against your friends. Other players who know anything about 'Nids would never let this fly (pun not intended)