Conversion Club poll

[Devil's Advocate]

The idea here is the same as the Painting Club.

We'll find a set number of points and get started on converting. Every month, we pick the vote for the best built models or conversions.

would you be more interested if it was just "best built models" or "conversions only"?

This can feed into the painting club, or be something entirely separate. We could trade off on months, depending on interest. I'd hate to see the Painting Club wither because people are busy modeling and vise versa.

Of course, all armies (and games: WH40k, WHFB, BFG, Inquisitor, LoTR) would be welcome. What with the Apocalypse expansion coming, I think that both of these clubs would be a lot of fun.

initially I was thinking a minimum of 200 points. this would be anywhere from 40 spinegaunts to 20 devilgaunts or 10 genestealers, or 2 elite fexi. or 1 heavy fex. or a flyrant. or.... the list goes on. do you think this point value is too low?

GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS

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[botchulaz]

I think this would be a good idea, although i am new to the modeling scene i got into it primarily because of my friends and then secondly because i thought i would quite enjoy creating these miniatures from nothing but the small lifeless parts on the sprue to the fantastically painted and converted miniatures that some of the professional enthusiast churn out. Converting or modeling has always interested me since i started playing so i think this could give the the goal and the drive to actually take the time and effort to make something different than everyone else's. So yes, i think this could be great if enough people cooperate and join in, you have my vote at least.

TL;DR Hell yeah ;D

[math]

Yeah that could be cool, got my number.....er.. I mean vote. It'll give me a excuse to spend more cash.

Just in case anyone wonders what I mean its from a tv ad, advertising direct enquiries in the U.K

[Julio]

make it a converting contest-but dont start until i get a camera ....

[math]

Still not got one, send this man some cash.

If by some freaky cowincedence you live in swansea, in south wales(U.K) then you could borrow mine.

[zark]

I'm in, I was so tempted to choose the 'go fly a kite' option If you want to join the painting and convering together I suggest making them both for 200pts of models, other wise as you said some people will have to choose what they want to enter.

[tail3736]

ive made some un-converted but custom models. can I post those?

[Biotitan]

sounds cool, id certainly give it a shot
woulds scratch builds be accepted?

[Julio]

math said:

Still not got one, send this man some cash.

If by some freaky cowincedence you live in swansea, in south wales(U.K) then you could borrow mine.

omg u live there to?!

joking ....but no im in canada

[Devil's Advocate]

hivefleetpandinus said:

make it a converting contest-but dont start until i get a camera ....

Well the reason I'd not want to limit it to a conversion-only contest is that there is a lot of work that can go into a normal build:
Trimming flash lines, greenstuffing gaps, drilling barrels, applying weld lines, dressing up tanks, custom bases, etc.. where is the line between conversion and a normal build?

One could slap a few deathspitters on to a rhino and call it a nurgle rhino with smoke launchers, and it counts as a conversion, but was made in an hour or less.

While someone else could take a Leman Russ and painstakingly build greenstuff sandbags, bedrolls, add on rough weld lines, and add on careful battle damage, all of that taking days of careful assembly.

Heck, the new Baneblade build time was estimated to me at 3-4 hours, and that's if you know what you're doing and not making any conversions!

The point here is to get people into the habit of making neat models, not just clip-glue clip-glue clip-glue.

tail3736 said:

ive made some un-converted but custom models. can I post those?

If you're not using any GW parts (or not many), they would probably be called scratch build, e.g. the giant worm with the guardsman hat. That would be allowed.

If you're taking GW parts and building something entirely new with them to represent an in-game unit, that would probably be a conversion.

Either way, they are both legal to enter.

biotitan said:

sounds cool, id certainly give it a shot
woulds scratch builds be accepted?

well, see above

[mandark]

sounds like a really good idea, expecially since it seems as soon as i have finished converting something i move onto another item before painting it (leading to several armies with nice key features but not a drop of paint).

Also going onto the topic of points and what time it can take for conversion. Does point cost really matter when looking for good conversions, i.e ive seen some really interseting troop stuff that have taken ages that dont cost much point wisae in comparison to a simple weapon swop on something bigger that took 5 minutes? just a thought

[Devil's Advocate]

I see your point Mandark, but I feel there needs to be a basis for comparison, you know?

which is worth more kudos? 40 perfectly assembled spinegaunts with not a trace of flash, bases simple but complete, or 2 space marine HQ units with crazy cool greenstuff, extra bits and all kinds of additions?

the more I think about it, the more I'm thinking the minimum points value should be less that the 400 point painting club... 200? 250? 300?

considering that you'd have a month to complete the task, 200 seems a little low, considering that would generally be about 1 unit and you shouldn't have it painted by the end of the month... but 400 seems a little high, knowing the amount of work I've put into a single 200 point model before. maybe 250 or 275. obviously if you want to make a titan or a scratch built Ork gargant or gargantuan creature, your points value would be more than the 250 limit, and that's ok.

keep the thoughts coming, it helps me work this out in my head.

[J.Dogg]

What about some crazy chaos conversions?
I'm working on those now.

[serif]

I had to

[lowlygaunt]

I would be interested in a converting contest. And I agree completely on the points total being a tricky issue. A converted land raider is 250+ points, is that really worth the same amount as converting 15 genestealer cult members? Well it all depends on the level of converting. Maybe set some sort of "number of model" guidlines? like models on a 25mm base: 10, Models on a 40mm base: 5, Or one vehicle is equivalent? And then make sure that people take into account not only the quality of conversion in voting but the quantity or number of changes/clean ups/weapon swaps/etc on the entry?
Also you sort of said it before, but I obviousely use a lot of non GW models in my armies, especially for vehicles, where I can get a full tank for 10$. How lenient are we going to be on this? Add GW bits in the conversion and it counts?