Kraken/Jormungandr/Kronos - 2k Tournament List

[tyrantgrift]

Hola ballers and a bro fist to you all !

So... I haven't played a proper game of 40 for a while, illness, work and Christmas kinda scuppered any time I've had for gaming. Had a game with my Blood Angels today, just for fun. 

My gaming group is planning a Tournament next month and I want to take my Tyranids. I've got a solid 1500 point list which I have yet to lose a game with. I'm looking to expand it to 2000 points and get it painted for the upcoming tournament.

Here's the 1500 list. 


Battalion Detachment


HQ

Winged Hive Tyrant: Monstrous Rending Claws; Prehensile Tail Pincer;

Deathspitters w/ Slimer Maggots; Toxin Sacs; Chamaleonic Mutation; 188

Broodlord; Monstrous Rending Claws; 162

TROOPS

20 Genestealers; Rending Claws; 240



3 Warriors; 2x Deathspitter; Barbed Strangler; 80



30 Termagants; 15 Fleshborers; 15 Devourers; 180



Ripper Swarm; 33


Spearhead Detachment



HQ



Old One Eye; 200


HEAVY SUPPORT


Carnifex; 2 Pairs of Monstrous Scything Talons; Bone Mace;

Tusks; Spore Cysts; Adrenal Glands; 107

Carnifex; 2 Pairs of Monstrous Scything Talons; Bone Mace;

Tusks; Spore Cysts; Adrenal Glands; 107



Trygon Prime; Bio-electric Pulse with Containment Spines; Biostatic Rattle;

3 pairs of Massive Scything Talons; Adrenal Glands; 203

1500 points bang on.


I have 52 Genestealers in total, another Broodlord, a Mawloc, 5 Warriors and an abundance of Ripper Swarms. That and the list above is all the models I own but I pretty much have free reign on what to buy to get the army to 2000 points. 


Here's what I'm thinking about:

A Prime + boosting the Warriors to 6 or even 9 models, plus a small unit if Raveners. With the Jormungandr stratagem these can all pop up and cause carnage, if the Prime becomes Warlord all their shooting will ignore cover. Hive Guard with shock cannons could also useful for this. Adding a Neurothrope and a couple of Rippers will give me another Battalion for 10 CP's. 

Boosting the Devilgants to 30 Devourers and giving the Tyrant twin Devourers. Adding a small unit of Hormies to tie up enemy shooty units/help the genestealers out. 

Tyrannofex with Acid Spray... Something (else) to accompany the 'fexes. Would mean I could put the 'fexes in a Brood to fill the Spearhead but thinking Jormungandr for the 2+ save could be nice. Have only used the Mawloc in a couple of games, it's an option. 

Another, similar idea I had was for another Jormungandr detachment. 2x Dakkafexes, Acid Spray Tyranofex and a Nuerothrope as Warlord. Keep them all together and I have a mobile firebase that ignores cover. Might be better with some longer ranged, stationary shooting but this doesn't really appeal to me


Anyway, that's some ideas I've been thinking about for expanding the army. Do any of them have merit?

Thanks in advance for any C&C and cheers for looking!

Grift

[tyrantgrift]

Had time to have a good think and come up with something that could work. I'll post up the list and a little about it underneath

Battle-Forged Tyranids
2000 Points
10 Command Points

Kraken Battalion Detachment

HQ

Winged Hive Tyrant: Monstrous Rending Claws; Prehensile Tail Pincer; Heavy Venom Cannon; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Chamaleonic Mutation; 204

Broodlord; Monstrous Rending Claws; 162

TROOPS

18 Genestealers; Rending Claws; 216

Ripper Swarm; 33

Ripper Swarm; 33

Kraken Spearhead Detachment

HQ

Old One Eye; 200

HEAVY SUPPORT

2x Carnifex; 2 Pairs of Monstrous Scything Talons; Bone Mace; Tusks; Spore Cysts; Adrenal Glands; 214

Biovore; 36

Biovore; 36

Jormungandr Battalion Detachment

HQ

Neurothrope; 70

Neorothrope; 70

TROOPS

30 Termagants; 30 Devourers; Devourers; 240

Ripper Swarm; 33

Ripper Swarm; 33

HEAVY SUPPORT

Trygon Prime; Bio-electric Pulse with Containment Spines; Biostatic Rattle; 3 pairs of Massive Scything Talons; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; 211

Mawloc; Toxin Sacs; 105

FORTIFICATION

Sporocyst; 5x Deathspitter; 104

2000 points exactly!


The Hive Tyrant provides some dedicated anti-tank. Thinking of giving him the Instinctive Killer Warlord Trait to help him in this capacity. He'll DS, shoot the HVC at the most dangerous tank with re-rolls to hits, then assault using a CP to re-roll a dice if necessary, where he is re-rolling both hits and wounds thanks to his claws. With lucky rolls (sixes) he could potentially destroy or cripple a tank. He'll get The Horror to cripple the most threatening shooty unit and Paroxysm to cripple the most choppy unit.

Broodlord and Genestealers will use Opportunistic Advance to get up the board as quickly as possible. BL will get Catalyst to buff the GS as they're generally priority #1 for my opponent.

Thinking of using the Kraken Rippers to protect my important stuff (namely OOE) by negating any deepstrikers that maybe wanna go after them. Jorm rippers to burrow onto objectives and/or make themselves useful in other ways.

OOE with Carnifexes. They just run up the board and smash (please do not swear), usual stuff. I'll have a Zoan tag along to buff them with Onslaught if necessary.

Trygon Prime pops up with the Devilgants and they'll get single-minded annihilation when they arrive... Will try and shoot away screen and/or the support elements of my opponents army so the choppy stuff can get stuck in.

Biovores and the Sporocyst for board control and some extra dakka, and the Mawloc for distraction shenanigans. Some people have been raving about the 'Cyst and it seems really good for only 104 points, could be a good match up with the Biovores as bothh will provide me with Spore Mines.

That's kinda just a general overview.

Had a similar list with a Tyrannofex but I think this list has more potential in a tournament.

What do you guys think?

[acehilator]

The winged HT isn't going to cut it for AT duty. I feel that for any kind of kind of tournament play, even on a friendly/local level, you got to bring a full unit of Hive Guard. Shock Cannon HG require a taxi and the unit gets killed after the turn they appear. Exocrine with its gun only being S7 is annoying, as is Rupture Cannon Tfex starting at BS4+. HG are our best and most reliable AT unit, you only have to be careful with positioning because 36" is not that good depending on deployment map. Using Onslaught on them is always an option if the need arises.

Kronos Spearhead
Neurotrophe
Biovore
Biovore
Biovore
6x Hive Guard with Impaler Cannons

High on the chopping block to free up points are the Mawlow, the Broodlord and the Sporocyst. Consolidate all the melee guys into the Kraken Batallion, and add some lineholder Fleshborer Termagants to the Jormungandr detachment, gotta block out your deployment zone with cheap bodies to deny T1 DS, at least one unit of 20.

[tyrantgrift]

Thanks for the feedback, Ace! Appreciate it!

If fielding the Kronos spearhead I would have to drop my Jorm stuff completely to fit it in. It does provide me with some much needed AT though. Only managed to squeeze in 13 Termies to deny deepstrikers, perhaps clever use of the Biovores can help out in that regard. We do tend to play with a fair amount of scenery so hopefully I can can keep them out of sight while they do this.

This is what I came up with:


Kronos Spearhead Detachment - 518

Neurothrope; 70

Biovore; 36

Biovore; 36

Biovore; 36

6x Hive Guard; Impaler Cannons; 288

13 Termagants; 52

Kraken Battalion Detachment - 865

HQ

Winged Hive Tyrant: Monstrous Rending Claws; Prehensile Tail Pincer; Heavy Venom Cannon; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Chamaleonic Mutation; 204

Broodlord; Monstrous Rending Claws; 162

TROOPS

30 Termagants; 30 Devourers; 240

19 Genestealers; Rending Claws; 226

3 Ripper Swarms; 33

Spearhead Detachment - 617

Old One Eye; 200

Carnifex; 2 Pairs of Monstrous Scything Talons; Tusks; Spore Cysts; Adrenal Glands; 107

Carnifex; 2 Pairs of Monstrous Scything Talons; Tusks; Spore Cysts; Adrenal Glands; 107

Trygon Prime; Bio-electric Pulse with Containment Spines; Biostatic Rattle; 3 pairs of Massive Scything Talons; Adrenal Glands; 203



The 'core' of my army will pretty much always stay the same, at least until I expand my collection enough to start experimenting. I do have at least 6-8 before the tournament so there's time to boost it up to 2000 points.

[acehilator]

Switch the HVC on the HT to Devourers if you don't plan on using the Miasma Cannon, imho. TS can be removed too, maybe even AG. You already have a lot of other units relying on Charges and maybe needing rerolls for them, just don't try the Charge the turn the HT dropped in. And with its speed and the Fly keyword he has no problems getting into position the following turns.

Don't forget Acid Maws on the Stealers. Maybe drop down to 16 (4 Maws) to make room for more Termagants.

[tyrantgrift]

Today I ordered a whole boat load of Warriors, with these I'm gonna try and convert 6 HG and 3 Biovores. Also a box of Zoans, so I can build a Neurothrope. And more Termagants and a Sporocyst...

Gonna try and arrange a game, probably won't get one this week as I'm doing Mordheim and DnD this week, but hopefully if I ask around I'll arrange a game for next week.

Never tried Acid Maws on the Genies, they seem good enough without tbh. Gonna give the HT a whirl starting on the table, with the reach of his cannon he should get a couple of shots off before getting into assault range... Depends who/what I'm facing. I haven't actually played the majority of folks that play 40k at the club so I don't know how competitive people tend to be there.

Will keep you updated

[tyrantgrift]

Hello again!

This is a revised version of the army.  Changed the Broodlord for another Winged Tyrant and swapped OOE for a regular 'Fex... 3 of them should still be a threat. Plus, more Biovores!!

Thinking the Neuro in the Jorm will pop up with the Trygon and the Terms to provide synapse for the two of them and get Smite/Psychic Scream or some other power into a key place. With this and the Miasma Cannon I'll only have 6CP but that will give me some options, at least, was aiming for 10 (8). 

5 Biovores now. I did think a small unit of terms or 2 for blocking up my DZ was a solid idea but I think spreading the Biovores around and using my other units should suffice for this. I'll keep the Rippers in reserve and pop up late game to capture objectives.

26 points left, just gonna spread a few upgrades around.


Been posting stuff on my gaming groups Facebook page, so I hope to get to try this out soon. Had a game today but not with my all my new stuff as that has yet to arrive. 



Kronos Spearhead Detachment - 466

Neurothrope; 70

Biovore; 36

Biovore; 36

Biovore; 36

6x Hive Guard; Impaler Cannons; 288


Kraken Battalion Detachment - 958

Winged Hive Tyrant: Devourers w/ Brainleech Worms; Monstrous Rending Claws; Prehensile Tail Pincer; Chamaleonic Mutation; 184

Winged Hive Tyrant; Miasma Cannon; Monstrous Rending Claws; Prehensile Tail Pincer; 195

16 Genestealers; Rending Claws; Scything Talons; 4x Acid Maw; 192

3 Ripper Swarms; 33

3 Ripper Swarms; 33

3x Carnifex; 2 Pairs of Monstrous Scything Talons; Tusks; Spore Cysts; Adrenal Glands; 321


Jormungandr Spearhead Detachment - 550

Neurothrope; 70

30 Termagants; 30 Devourers; 240

Trygon; Bio-electric Pulse; Biostatic Rattle; 3 Pairs of Massive Scything Talons; 168

Biovore; 36

Biovore; 36



What do you guys think of this?

[avasraali]

I like it overall. Just a note to say bear in mind although you get more CPs from fielding your 'vores in units of 1 to fill out detachments, you do also reduce your chances of going first due to the increased number of units. Just a thought, I'm sure you've weighed up the pros and cons already!

Just a note per Acid Maws - you've included them which is good, but note your previous post on the topic. Realistically, Acid Maws just bring what you already have in Rending Claws, but much much better - Genestealers ARE good enough without, but they cost 0 points so there's no reason to not take them.

[tyrantgrift]

Thank you for commenting Avasraali, appreciate it!

Usually end going 2nd even when I have less drops that my opponent, my dice are fickle like that. That said, I think I could condense the Jorm stuff into the Kraken Battalion and probably have 13 drops instead, I can do this and still have 6 CPs to play with. This list has 2 regular Trygons, one for the Genies and one for the Termies. Because...

I don't like fielding the Genies on the board, because when I go second my opponent just kills them all or severely cripples them since he generally has the first turn. This has happened two games in a row. I did, however, completely forget about the node infestation thingies to deploy them off the board. In fact, there's a lot of stuff I always forget about, such as the Spore Cysts on the Carnifexes... I'm lucky if I get one game a week despite the fact I'm constantly asking on our FB page if people want to play.

Will always take the Acid Maws from now on, you're right in saying there's no reason not to take them 8)