2000pt Leviathan List

[nurglitch]

Is this fun?

Note: Leviathan army.

++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Tyranids) [117 PL, 1995pts] ++

+ HQ [4 PL, 70pts] +

Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: The Norn Crown, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Perfectly Adapted

+ Elites [28 PL, 576pts] +

Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]

Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]

Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]

Hive Guard [7 PL, 144pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]
. Hive Guard [48pts]: Impaler Cannon [30pts]

+ Troops [31 PL, 404pts] +

Ripper Swarms [4 PL, 44pts]: 4x Ripper Swarm [44pts]

Termagants [9 PL, 120pts]: 27x Termagant (Spike Rifle) [108pts], 3x Termagant (Strangleweb) [12pts]

Termagants [9 PL, 120pts]: 27x Termagant (Spike Rifle) [108pts], 3x Termagant (Strangleweb) [12pts]

Termagants [9 PL, 120pts]: 27x Termagant (Spike Rifle) [108pts], 3x Termagant (Strangleweb) [12pts]

+ Heavy Support [54 PL, 945pts] +

Carnifexes [18 PL, 315pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]

Carnifexes [18 PL, 315pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]

Carnifexes [18 PL, 315pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]
. Carnifex [105pts]: Enhanced Senses [10pts], 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms [28pts]

++ Total: [117 PL, 1995pts] ++

Not one of mine, but curious to see what people think. To me it looks like fresh meat for just about any army out there, particularly ones with snipers, but I've been wrong before.

[sunshine]

That's a lot of carnifexes

[4armedfury]

You are playing a dangerous game of rock paper snipers, if you opponent can remove your neuro, your term's will fold. BUT you do have 9 Fexen to mush into his face...

[nurglitch]

The problem is that the Carnifexes are kind of pillow-fisted. Those 24 shots at BS3+ are nice until something charges them and pummels them in combat. I don't think spam like this really works in 8th.

[killercroc]

Question, why is this army leviathan? With only 1 synapse creature being leviathan is a huge waste. Would be much better as a kronos army instead.

[nidzy]

Jan 3, 2018 21:41:24 GMT killercroc said:

Question, why is this army leviathan? With only 1 synapse creature being leviathan is a huge waste. Would be much better as a kronos army instead.

I think the hive guard detachment should be kronos, but those fex don't get anything from kronos until they are in standing range. I would prefer jorg or even kraken for all of the fex I think but that is just me.

With that said, he will get back a significant number of wounds with leviathan. I don't think it is a terrible choice.

[killercroc]

Honestly I don't think so. Leviathan only works within 6" of a Synapse creature and he has 1 synapse creature. So unless he's planning on shoving all those carnifexes into one katamari ball very few things will get the 6+++

[nidzy]

^^ Good catch, I hadn't read it recently enough and missed this.

[nurglitch]

I didn't notice that either. He's touting Leviathan as the strongest Hivefleet Trait but without any coverage, or command points.

[killercroc]

Leviathan can be good but you need to work at the list. Honestly it's the only trait I have issue with because Eldar have a trait that gives the entire army, vehicles and all, a 6+++ with no restrictions. So the fact we get it only within 6" of a Synapse creature is really dumb. If they wanted to make it a throw back to the old rule they should have at least made it synapse distance not 6", I'm sure there's a way to get it to work but it's requiring your units to bunch up so much and if your other units get a 6 to run and they Synapse gets a 1 you're kinda screwed.

Personally I still think Kraken is the best trait because it doesn't require army synergy to work and every creature benefits from it even if they have heavy weapons.

[nurglitch]

How does the Kraken trait benefit units with Heavy Weapons? Is it because they can fire at stuff that was previously within 1" of an enemy unit?

[killercroc]

Kraken benefits units with heavy weapons in a minor way but it still does. Even though they cannot run and fire there are time you'll be running heavy weapons anyway due to no targets, so that 3D6 pick the highest is still beneficial. As well in synergy with other units if you have some things locked in combat they can fall back, the heavy weapons open fire into the unit they were just in combat with, then they can charge back in. One thing I like to do with kraken is charge units I don't need to, just so I can sling-shot myself off of them and charge units behind them next turn, Space Marine Drop pods work amazing for this.

[mrdodo]

why would you take 4x 3 hive guard and not 2x3 and 1x6 for the sweet sweet SMA? effectively giving you double the output for the same amount of cp!
and yeah take kronos for the guard. I mean you go from (with SMA) shooting 12 shots at 3+ towards shooting 24 shots 3+ rerolling 1's.

[nurglitch]

As I understand it the author doesn't believe in Command Points or Strategems.

[almostmercury]

Well, apparently the author doesn't believe in benefiting from hive fleet traits either. Good luck.