Tyranid/Cult plus Baneblade

[imweasel]

Hey guys,
I wanted to make a Tyranid/Cult and Militarum list. The basic idea was to have the Astra Militarum part be the heavy support (In the beginning i thought of maybe 3 Leman Russes or 3 Basilisks in a Spearhead Detachment). The Cult is there for the Brood Brothers rule. The Tyranids Detachment is the main core of this army. I wanted to make it swarmy with the two units of Genestealers and a Broodlord to support them. The devgants go intonthe tunnel with the T Pime. Ten gants as a screen for the Banesword. The Flyrant (probanly the Warlord not sure yet) is basically a deep strike harass unit. Comes, shoots, charges, next turn flies away, 8“ to an enemy for auto hits, charges and so on.
I still have about 90points left and I build this list from stuff I mostly own. I‘m open for any suggestions. This list is mostly a fun list. I just want to see the opponents face when he sees a Tyranid Banesword hehe...

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Tyranids - Genestealer Cults) [11 PL, 199pts] ++

+ HQ +

Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, 53pts]

Magus [4 PL, 73pts]: Power: Mass Hypnosis

Magus [4 PL, 73pts]: Power: Mind Control

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [26 PL, 540pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Banesword [26 PL, 540pts]: Twin heavy bolter
. 2 Lascannon & Twin Heavy Bolter Sponsons: 2x Lascannon, 2x Twin heavy bolter
. 2 Lascannon & Twin Heavy Bolter Sponsons: 2x Lascannon, 2x Twin heavy bolter

++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [70 PL, 1164pts] ++

+ HQ +

Broodlord [8 PL, 162pts]: Monstrous Rending Claws, Power: The Horror

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 215pts]: Adrenal Glands, Heavy Venom Cannon, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: Catalyst, Power: Psychic Scream, The Miasma Cannon, Warlord, Wings

+ Troops +

Genestealers [16 PL, 192pts]: 4x Acid Maw
. 16x Genestealer: 16x Rending Claws, 16x Scything Talons

Genestealers [16 PL, 192pts]: 4x Acid Maw
. 16x Genestealer: 16x Rending Claws, 16x Scything Talons

Termagants [6 PL, 160pts]
. 20x Termagant (Devourer): 20x Devourer

Termagants [3 PL, 40pts]: 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)

+ Heavy Support +

Trygon Prime [10 PL, 203pts]: Adrenal Glands, 3x Massive Scything Talons, Prehensile Pincer Tail

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Kraken

++ Total: [107 PL, 1903pts] ++

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[imweasel]

Because no one said anything to this list (maybe bc its utter bullsh.. or bc it is so great) ive tried to optimize it.



++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Tyranids - Genestelter Cults) [11 PL, 199pts] ++

+ HQ +

Acolyte Iconward [3 PL, 53pts]

Magus [4 PL, 73pts]: Power: Mass Hypnosis

Magus [4 PL, 73pts]: Power: Mind Control

++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [28 PL, 595pts] ++

+ Lord of War +

Baneblade [28 PL, 595pts]: Autocannon, Demolisher cannon, Twin heavy bolter
. 2 Lascannon & Twin Heavy Bolter Sponsons: 2x Lascannon, 2x Twin heavy bolter
. 2 Lascannon & Twin Heavy Bolter Sponsons: 2x Lascannon, 2x Twin heavy bolter

+ No Force Org Slot +




++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [72 PL, 1204pts] ++

+ HQ +

Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 215pts]: Adrenal Glands, Heavy Venom Cannon, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: Catalyst, Power: Psychic Scream, The Miasma Cannon, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology, Wings

The Swarmlord [15 PL, 300pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Onslaught

+ Troops +

Genestealers [12 PL, 168pts]: 4x Acid Maw
. 14x Genestealer: 14x Rending Claws, 14x Scything Talons

Genestealers [12 PL, 168pts]: 4x Acid Maw
. 14x Genestealer: 14x Rending Claws, 14x Scything Talons

Hormagaunts [6 PL, 100pts]: 20x Hormagaunt

Termagants [3 PL, 40pts]: 10x Termagant (Fleshborer)

+ Dedicated Transport +

Tyrannocyte [8 PL, 123pts]: 5x Deathspitter

+ No Force Org Slot +

Hive Fleet: Kraken

+ Elites +

Venomthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: 3x Venomthrope

++ Total: [111 PL, 1998pts] ++

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[kazetanade]

If you're bringing a single Baneblade, do you really need the AM portion? Its not like 2 Exocrines and 1 HG cant outperform it without the AM shenanigans.

Is this for casual beer and pretzels? If so, it looks pretty good for a spin so take her out and give it a whirl.

[imweasel]

Hey thanks for answering.
Yes its mostly for fun. „I play Tyranids WITH this fat Baneblade here“. I know I wont be winning tournaments with this, just wanted to share a funny idea I had with GSCs Brood Brother rule.

I still have a question concerning HG and Exocrine outperforming this.
Ive read this a lot of times that this combo is pretty good but how if you‘re only wounding T8(e.g. Knights) on 4+ and 5+?

[endgame422]

I have something similar I am working on.
Basically it's a Leviathan battalion of 2 flyrants, 20 Genestealers, 30 devgaunts, rippers and a trygon for the nids
Outrider with 1 magus 3 scout sentinels for GSC.
Supreme command with 2 primaris and a company commander+ A shadowsword.
Scouts keep the heat off, primaris make shadowsword -1 to hit and 2+ armor, Commander takes strategist+Aquila for CP spam,nids DS/zergrush with devgaunts/GS murdering infantry, flyrants handling midsize units, and trygon+ Shadowsword murdering big stuff.
Only have 1 game with this set-up but it was pretty fun and I cleaned house against grey knights stormraven/Grandmaster spam.
The long range heavy support from the shadowsword felt awesome for my Nids and soaked all his heavy shooting leaving my tyrants unmolested until T3 when it was basically over.

[imweasel]

Thanks for sharing your list with us.

I have to say I like your list even more than my own IF it only would have been possible to play it like this.
You can only use AM detachments with Nids and GSC if you use the Brood Brother rule. The Brood Brother rule says all your AM Models REPLACE their AM keyword with the Brood Brothers keyword. So first of all no Psyker -1 etc. shenanigans as the wording is „select a AM unit x“ away...“. Therefore I also think you CAN make the Commander your Warlord but you can‘t take AM Warlord traits. I don‘t know the wording but I think it‘s always something like „If you have a AM/Tyranid/Tau/Whatever Warlord you may take one of...“. The Commander is no AM model in this list due to Brood Brothers rule.

But still thank you for the idea. I think those are small problems one could easily fix and I also thought of replacing the Baneblade with a Shadowsword.

[endgame422]

I think you replace the REGIMENT keyword with BROOD BROTHERS not the ASTRA MILITARIUM keyword.
So I does allow for psychic powers,warlord traits and relics, but you can't make your baneblade CADIA to reroll 1s or VALLHALLA to keep it from degrading.
The AM FAQ does say specifically the part about replacing REGIMENT so i think it does work this way.
I think it's a legal list and it's fairly competitive

[mrdodo]

yes this is right. The faq states you are not allowed to take a regiment or take any specific regiment warlord traits/relics etc. only the basic ones. The only thing I did wrong my first game : you are forced to use the mealstrom card deck of the warlord army, while I used the one of the nids. It was all good though, didn't influence that much as it is only 6 cards of the entire deck.

[imweasel]

Yes you are right. I somehow missread/understood it. Sorry for this.

Then ignore my text after IF...