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Post by doomduck on Dec 24, 2017 18:42:14 GMT
Long time fantasy player getting in to 40k, now that I’m over the death of 8th ed and realizing that I’ll never get a new beastmen codex. So I picked up bids because they remind me of my redhead stepchildren of chaos that I love so. So here I am building my bugs. I’m in love with Gorgon and the spores and toxin. I’m build a very assault type army. I’m going to play my second game of 40k ever vs CSM. I did one 1500 point game last week and lost. This is a point stretching list to hit 2000. Mostly stuff I have. Looking for help, and tips. Last game my genestealer were mvp. He focused on my HQ a lot and took out my flyrant in one shootout.
This is my 2000 point army. Setting up Steelers with trygon, warriors and other med bugs in a ball to march up. No clue what to do with death leaper. He was just filling my last 90points
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [109 PL, 1998pts] ++
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 199pts]: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Hyper-adaptive Biology, Power: Catalyst, Toxin Sacs, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology, Wings
Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: Power: Catalyst
Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: Power: The Horror
Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 109pts]: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, The Ymgarl Factor, Toxin Sacs
+ Troops +
Genestealers [12 PL, 180pts]
. 15x Genestealer: 15x Rending Claws
Genestealers [12 PL, 180pts]
. 15x Genestealer: 15x Rending Claws
Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 249pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 249pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
+ Heavy Support +
Trygon Prime [10 PL, 211pts]: Adrenal Glands, Biostatic Rattle, 3x Massive Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
Trygon Prime [10 PL, 211pts]: Adrenal Glands, Biostatic Rattle, 3x Massive Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs
+ No Force Org Slot +
Hive Fleet: Gorgon
+ Elites +
Deathleaper [5 PL, 90pts]: Rending Claws
Venomthropes [9 PL, 180pts]: 6x Venomthrope
++ Total: [109 PL, 1998pts] ++
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Post by red on Dec 24, 2017 20:30:40 GMT
welcome to the club Tyranids are very hard to play right .. dont give up thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/53193/uncomfortable-touch-method-beating-gunlinesis a good read . and you should think about getting some lesser bugs to help out hormagants or gargoyles to silence the guns for a few turns table your opponent is a rare thing to happen so the game is won on point taking opjectives. rippers are a cheap way of doing that for very little points. Hyve tyrants are gun magnets yes so you need to know when go and where some times T1 DS is not a good Idea and some times they stay home and you take stuff like brood lords and OOE death leaper is not that good , now days you use him to attack a tank he will not do damage but will keep it bussy o would take gargoyles with AG they do the same thing against chaos your warriors need bone swords |
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Post by mrdodo on Dec 24, 2017 22:41:49 GMT
hey doomduck, you didnt really ask a question in your post but my 2 cents : you are so close to a brigade, its a waste not going for the extra cp, which can be done with minimum investment of models split up the warriors in 4 groups instead of deathleaper, take 2 lictors for same points, then you only need 3 fast attack (3x meotic spore for 60 pts.) and 1 heavy (biovore for 36 pts.) so 96 I would take regular trygons since you have more then enough synaps in your army which saves you 60 pts allready,shave the rest of with taking 3 genestealers less or switch something in your warriors. (you now have big blob of warriors where some do long range shooting and dont want to be in c.c. and others only do something in c.c., so you always waste half of your unit.) good luck out there  nids is a very cool army to play and since this edition we have even more game since a long time. |
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Post by doomduck on Dec 25, 2017 4:36:11 GMT
Ok so I made a few changes. Iv got some points left. I don’t have many more models so only other options of minis not in the list are :
1 lictor
4 warriors bones swords
1 hive tyrant
12 hormagaunts
2 brood lords (but I’d have to build them ..........)
1 red terror
1 malanthrope
1 neurothrope
. I could split the unit of venomthropes in two and have two squads to pincer him or lose the brain bug and toss in a extra hive tyrant. He’s got 3 rhinos with units of 10 berserker 2 units of obliterators a big tentacles monster daemon and two flying daemon birds and maybe some new stuff. Our last game was 1500.
++ Battalion Detachment +3CP (Tyranids) [106 PL, 1949pts] ++
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 199pts]: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Hyper-adaptive Biology, Power: Catalyst, Toxin Sacs, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology, Wings
Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: Power: Catalyst
Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 109pts]: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, The Ymgarl Factor, Toxin Sacs
Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 109pts]: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
+ Troops +
Genestealers [16 PL, 192pts]
. 16x Genestealer: 16x Rending Claws
Genestealers [12 PL, 180pts]
. 15x Genestealer: 15x Rending Claws
Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 273pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
Tyranid Warriors [13 PL, 273pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Scything Talons, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords
+ Heavy Support +
Trygon [8 PL, 182pts]: Adrenal Glands, 3x Massive Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs, Toxinspike
Trygon [8 PL, 182pts]: Adrenal Glands, 3x Massive Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs, Toxinspike
+ No Force Org Slot +
Hive Fleet: Gorgon
+ Elites +
Venomthropes [9 PL, 180pts]: 6x Venomthrope
++ Total: [106 PL, 1949pts] ++
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Post by red on Dec 25, 2017 14:39:47 GMT
Now this is great information knowing his units we now know he will be agressive and try to get in to combat with you.
i would equip the warriors like this
Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, Bonesword las whip and death spitters . Now if he charges your warriors he still lose a lot of troops .
and the death spitters are super at killing demons.
i would take a unit of hormagants they are a screen to protect against charging.
do you know what a tarpit is? demon princes dont have a lot of attacks so big units of small bugs will hold them up a long time.
i would change 1 prime for a brood lord he can kill a Demon prince in combat a prime cannot . and he can dispell
strategy let your opponent go first he will come to you , i would go for the counter charge and land your deep strikers behind his forces mob up.
about your deep strikers wait with them until they have good target wait until his deep strikers are on the board.
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Post by doomduck on Jan 3, 2018 8:08:48 GMT
So the second game was a crippling defeat for nids Z
Everything but the warriors were killed. Bad rolls and bad moves and learning the game. After a ton of re working, paining, and hobby iv come up with this for game three.
++ Brigade Detachment +9CP (Tyranids) [116 PL, 1998pts] ++
+ Fast Attack +
Mucolid Spores [1 PL, 20pts]: Mucolid Spore
Mucolid Spores [1 PL, 20pts]: Mucolid Spore
Mucolid Spores [1 PL, 20pts]: Mucolid Spore
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 208pts]: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Scything Talons, Power: The Horror, The Ymgarl Factor, Toxin Sacs, Two Deathspitters with Slimer Maggots, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology, Wings
Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: Power: Catalyst
Neurothrope [4 PL, 70pts]: Power: Catalyst
Tyranid Prime [6 PL, 109pts]: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
+ Troops +
Genestealers [16 PL, 240pts]
. 20x Genestealer: 20x Rending Claws
Genestealers [4 PL, 60pts]
. 5x Genestealer: 5x Rending Claws
Hormagaunts [9 PL, 174pts]
. 29x Hormagaunt: 29x Adrenal Glands
Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 84pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 126pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Scything Talons
Tyranid Warriors [9 PL, 174pts]
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
. Tyranid Warrior: Adrenal Glands, 2x Boneswords, Toxin Sacs
+ Heavy Support +
Biovores [6 PL, 108pts]: 3x Biovore
Biovores [6 PL, 108pts]: 3x Biovore
Trygon [8 PL, 182pts]: Adrenal Glands, 3x Massive Scything Talons, Toxin Sacs, Toxinspike
+ No Force Org Slot +
Hive Fleet: Gorgon
+ Elites +
Lictor [2 PL, 45pts]: Flesh Hooks, Rending Claws
Venomthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: 3x Venomthrope
Venomthropes [5 PL, 90pts]: 3x Venomthrope
++ Total: [116 PL, 1998pts] ++
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I did like warriors being an anvil. I did like my gaunts with the exploding strat. Phy phase was my best so wanted more smite. Mortal wounds rock. Need more biovores in my life. Got 9 points for 1:pheromone trail 2: toxin sac on 5+ 3:Fight twice 4: exploding bugs and some rerolls. Stay tuned for round three
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nids is a very cool army to play and since this edition we have even more game since a long time.