One fast Question

[shadowfinder]

Can a Tyrannocyte carry a Shrike Brood?

I think it can but just wanting to make sure. Not sure I would want to but I had a game where it could have happened and would have been usfull. A blue moon thing,, but Blue moons happen.

[WestRider]

It's unclear. If it follows the Rules for Transport Vehicles, then no, because they can only carry Infantry (specifically excluding Jump Infantry) except where specifically stated otherwise (I think the Storm Raven can carry Jump Infantry, and the allowance for MCs in the T-Cyte qualifies). If it has its own unique Rule that's not related to the Vehicle Rules, tho, then any 20 Models (modified for Bulky, etc.) should be fine.

However, GW has, as with so many things related to the T-Cyte, failed to make clear which of these two cases they actually intended

[jurassicpork]

Aug 3, 2015 6:31:04 GMT WestRider said:

It's unclear. If it follows the Rules for Transport Vehicles, then no, because they can only carry Infantry (specifically excluding Jump Infantry) except where specifically stated otherwise (I think the Storm Raven can carry Jump Infantry, and the allowance for MCs in the T-Cyte qualifies). If it has its own unique Rule that's not related to the Vehicle Rules, tho, then any 20 Models (modified for Bulky, etc.) should be fine.

However, GW has, as with so many things related to the T-Cyte, failed to make clear which of these two cases they actually intended

I would argue they can; assault marines get the bulky rule from the jump pack, and this presumably cannot fit. Warriors (100% poddable) are the same size (very bulky) as shrikes. Rulebook says jump units are infantry units with exceptions; thus I would argue unless it says something under the jump unit type entry (don't think it does), then shrikes can pod.

[gigasnail]

i don't think it actually follows the vehicle rules per se.

[WestRider]

Aug 3, 2015 7:12:33 GMT gigasnail said:

i don't think it actually follows the vehicle rules per se.

That's really the crux of the issue. As written, I think they probably can, but if they were intended to follow the Vehicle Rules, they can't.

[phayze]

Tyrannocyte simply says "a number of models" being 20. MCs count as 20. shrikes are very bulky, and count as more than 1 model for those purposes, but yes you can pod them for more accurate deep striking.

[mattblowers]

Of course you can. But then again I look at wounds and toughness and think that means it's not a vehicle. Of course, ITC thinks otherwise with its 45' arc ruling, so what do I know?

[powerbouncytommy]

The ITC ruling only allows a 45 degree arc? I'd assumed it was wider than that...

5 * 45 = 225, I mean, talk about blind spots!

[Kwodd]

Hopefully that ridiculous ruling dies with this latest poll.

[gigasnail]

here's to hoping!

[WestRider]

Yeah. 45* is ridiculous. I would have been ok with a limited arc if it were something like 135* or so, but 45* just nerfs the thing into the ground.

[gigasnail]

it doesn't look like it's going to stick, listening to the feedback/podcast stuff. we'll see.

be interesting to see what they do with the DK FMC being summoned, too. sticky/poorly written rules.