Bone Mace AP

[Osedaxx]

Hey Hive,

Quick question on Bone Mace's and their AP. Do you use the AP - or do they ignore armour since they're on a MC. Since Scything Talons on a MC ignore armor I assume that a bone mace would as well. Any help would be awesome!

Would they also count as an extra weapon for the extra attack as well?

Cheers,

[Jabberwocky]

Read the section on tail weapons.

They receive absolutely no bonuses from the model carrying them and don't count towards the multiple weapon bonus attack.

[Osedaxx]

Just saw that. Derp. My bad! Thanks!

[nikh]

Yep, they REALLY don't want you using those tail biomorphs. An AP6 Scything Talon gets moved up to Ap2 when on an MC chassis, but that giant club of bone on the tail? Naaaaaahhhhh. T-Shirt saves got it covered.

[mattblowers]

It's why it's rarely touted here. Guardsmen have a 33% chance of shrugging off a wallop from that tail.

[swarm492]

Reminds me of reading the codex for the first time.

Oh hey!, tail bio-morphs are back..(reading).. oh...never mind

Oh hey!, the red terrors finally back..(reading).. oh...never mind

Oh hey!, they changed old one eye up..(reading).. oh...never mind

and it goes on and on..

[mattblowers]

Jul 7, 2015 11:41:59 GMT swarm492 said:

Reminds me of reading the codex for the first time.

Oh hey!, tail bio-morphs are back..(reading).. oh...never mind

Oh hey!, the red terrors finally back..(reading).. oh...never mind

Oh hey!, they changed old one eye up..(reading).. oh...never mind

and it goes on and on..

Haha. That's funny right there. I'm such a dope I added a "...let's try it on the table..." step. Red terror isn't awful in a non-comp game. It's a hoot at least. I typically emphasis his abilities and go after an IC to force him to react.

[nurglitch]

Hammer of Wrath is AP- as well, and yet Carnifexes make it work.

[Hive Bahamut]

IF they wanted to stick it to the -AP all they had to do was make it like a reverse HOW. Auto hit at I1 step. Ideally I would rather it just added another attack at I1.

These are nice things. NPC don't get nice things. Just cool looking models that get shoveled off the board.

On another note.. Why does the Swarmlord not have at least 1 tail attack? Ahh that's right the Nid General got nerfed into oblivion and no point in giving him anything new.

[swarm492]

Jul 7, 2015 17:23:14 GMT Hive Bahamut said:

IF they wanted to stick it to the -AP all they had to do was make it like a reverse HOW. Auto hit at I1 step. Ideally I would rather it just added another attack at I1.

These are nice things. NPC don't get nice things. Just cool looking models that get shoveled off the board.

On another note.. Why does the Swarmlord not have at least 1 tail attack? Ahh that's right the Nid General got nerfed into oblivion and no point in giving him anything new.

I'll tell you why, because of raisins. I'd say reasons but there aren't any, SO RAISINS!

[arapaima]

Cos marines can't forge the narrative if they get squish by bonemace to the face or a carnifex charge. IMO it should be as good as a thunderhammer since the brute tank breaking force of the MC using it should match that of a marine swinging high tech fancy hammer.

[nikh]

As for forging a narrative, if your Nids are losing, you're perfectly aligned with all GeeDubs narrative.

[nikh]

Maybe they'd win some wars if their bone mace could puncture cloth.

[swarm492]

Jul 8, 2015 12:35:07 GMT nikh said:

As for forging a narrative, if your Nids are losing, you're perfectly aligned with all GeeDubs narrative.

All the wind, right out of my sails.

[powerbouncytommy]

Jul 7, 2015 16:19:49 GMT nurglitch said:

Hammer of Wrath is AP- as well, and yet Carnifexes make it work.

Auto-hitting goes a long way with weapon skill 3 though, and initiative 10 helps too. And even then it's only really effective against vehicles and the like, I find.