ETC 2015 Tyranid lists

[N.I.B.]

I thought I'd post a sample of the Nid lists here too, as discussion material. One thing to have in mind is that ETC is a special beast as it's a team competition were you cannot repeat the same combination of factions within the team, consisting of eight players.
Two sources + (some) fortifications are allowed, no Forgeworld.

I'm picking out Poland and Germany because they are the two best 40K ETC nations, plus Sean Nayden for 'Lictorshame' fame interest. Most countries had Leviathan represented as the secondary detachment.


here's Germany Sebastian Muellers Nids:

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PRIMARY DETACHMENT:

Skyblight Swarm
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs

Harpy, twin-linked heavy Stranglethorn Cannon, Cluster Spines
Harpy, twin-linked heavy Stranglethorn Cannon, Cluster Spines
Hive Crone, Stinger Salvo

10 Gargoyles
10 Gargoyles
10 Gargoyles

SECONDARY DETACHMENT:

Leviathan
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs

Venomthrope

Mucolid
Mucolid
Mucolid

Hive Crone

TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1850pts

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Poland: Jakub “Vladdi” Podruczny


Leviathan
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs

Venomthrope

Mucolid
Mucolid
Ripper Swarm, deepstrike

Harpy, Stinger Salvo

Skyblight Swarm
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs

Harpy, Stinger Salvo
Harpy, Stinger Salvo
Hive Crone

10 Gargoyles
10 Gargoyles
10 Gargoyles

1850pts

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So, Germany and Poland bring very similar builds. Extreme air born Nids, probably to be played as counters.

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Sean "lictorshame" Nayden

Leviathan
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs
Hive Tyrant, Wings, 2 twin-linked Devourers, Electroshock Grubs

Lictor
Lictor
Lictor

Mucolid
Mucolid
Mucolid

Mawloc
Mawloc

ETC Secondary Detachment: Corpse Thief Claw Formation, Faction Dark Eldar
Talos, Ichor Injector
Talos, Ichor Injector
Talos, Ichor Injector
Talos, Ichor Injector
Talos, Ichor Injector


TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1845pts
Type of Alliance: Come the Apocalypse

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What's apparent is that Skyblight + Leviathan is the way to go for pure Nids at the ETC (there were other nations going the same route), probably with hopes to be able to pitch them at lists with weak anti-air. What differ between them is a choice between extra Hive Crone or a Mawloc.

Sean Nayden goes a hybrid approach with solid ground presence.

I saw no fortifications for the Nid players, which makes me wonder a bit. How do they handle going second against Scatspam Eldar, or turn 1 dropping Cents with Tigerius? In ETC you of course try to get a favourable matchup (which is basically a game in itself), but still.
Leviathan and Skyblight detachments don't allow fortifications, so if you're set in that choice, you obviously cannot take a fort.

[Moontyranid]

I'm happy to see Sean does somthing else i am so sick of seeing the flyrant spam.

[N.I.B.]

Well, he does sport three of them as he usually does...

[rpricew]

My ATC list... ATC being the American version of the ETC.

Skyblight Swarm:
Flyrant (Dakka, Haywire)
Hive Crone (Cluster Spines)
Harpy x 2 (HVC, Cluster Spines)
3 x 10 Gargoyles

Hive Fleet Leviathan:
2 x Flyrant (Dakka, Haywire)
3 x Mucolids
2 x Lictors
1 x Venomthrope
2 x Mawloc (one with Tail Spike)

[gigasnail]

Jun 30, 2015 11:41:13 GMT Moontyranid said:

I'm happy to see Sean does somthing else i am so sick of seeing the flyrant spam.

Lol

[jaysic]

Jun 30, 2015 16:25:36 GMT rpricew said:

My ATC list... ATC being the American version of the ETC.

Skyblight Swarm:
Flyrant (Dakka, Haywire)
Hive Crone (Cluster Spines)
Harpy x 2 (HVC, Cluster Spines)
3 x 10 Gargoyles

Hive Fleet Leviathan:
2 x Flyrant (Dakka, Haywire)
3 x Mucolids
2 x Lictors
1 x Venomthrope
2 x Mawloc (one with Tail Spike)

See you there >

[N.I.B.]

When's the ATC and the ETC? I'm surprised the US ETC team isn't based on success in ATC.

[rpricew]

Jul 1, 2015 12:29:18 GMT N.I.B. said:

When's the ATC and the ETC? I'm surprised the US ETC team isn't based on success in ATC.

ATC is the weekend of July 25-26, 6 round tournament

[ordosean]

Well the atc and etc aren't 100% analogous. The atc was created to mimic some of the ideas of the etc in terms of being a team event that uses the matchup process. But they don't use the same missions or restrictions. Also it's 5 man teams formed by anyone who wants to attend. 

That said succes there does contribute to the American etc qualification process. And in fact out of the 10 people that comprise the top two teams from last year 5(3 from the winning team and 2 from the runner up) make up most of the 8 man etc team headed to Prague in a few weeks. 

In fact we aren't returning to defend our title simply because three of us are headed to Europe the week after the event and it was difficult to take the extra time off. 

[mattblowers]

Jul 5, 2015 15:50:30 GMT ordosean said:

Well the atc and etc aren't 100% analogous. The atc was created to mimic some of the ideas of the etc in terms of being a team event that uses the matchup process. But they don't use the same missions or restrictions. Also it's 5 man teams formed by anyone who wants to attend. 

That said succes there does contribute to the American etc qualification process. And in fact out of the 10 people that comprise the top two teams from last year 5(3 from the winning team and 2 from the runner up) make up most of the 8 man etc team headed to Prague in a few weeks. 

In fact we aren't returning to defend our title simply because three of us are headed to Europe the week after the event and it was difficult to take the extra time off. 

Just out of curiosity, (without asking you to tip your hand) how are you finding your lictor shame with the advent of the mass scat bikes? Rumors have it that a 'nid list was doing well at Wargames Con until he hit a scat bike list and melted.

[WestRider]

Jul 7, 2015 14:11:59 GMT mattblowers said:

Jul 5, 2015 15:50:30 GMT ordosean said:

Well the atc and etc aren't 100% analogous. The atc was created to mimic some of the ideas of the etc in terms of being a team event that uses the matchup process. But they don't use the same missions or restrictions. Also it's 5 man teams formed by anyone who wants to attend. 

That said succes there does contribute to the American etc qualification process. And in fact out of the 10 people that comprise the top two teams from last year 5(3 from the winning team and 2 from the runner up) make up most of the 8 man etc team headed to Prague in a few weeks. 

In fact we aren't returning to defend our title simply because three of us are headed to Europe the week after the event and it was difficult to take the extra time off. 

Just out of curiosity, (without asking you to tip your hand) how are you finding your lictor shame with the advent of the mass scat bikes? Rumors have it that a 'nid list was doing well at Wargames Con until he hit a scat bike list and melted.

That was an Endless Swarm list, tho. That result was pretty much predictable to anyone who looked at the matchup. He only made it into the championship round because he'd managed to dodge decent Eldar lists during the Swiss rounds.

[mattblowers]

Jul 7, 2015 15:20:18 GMT WestRider said:

Jul 7, 2015 14:11:59 GMT mattblowers said:

Just out of curiosity, (without asking you to tip your hand) how are you finding your lictor shame with the advent of the mass scat bikes? Rumors have it that a 'nid list was doing well at Wargames Con until he hit a scat bike list and melted.

That was an Endless Swarm list, tho. That result was pretty much predictable to anyone who looked at the matchup. He only made it into the championship round because he'd managed to dodge decent Eldar lists during the Swiss rounds.

I would imagine lictors don't fair well either since they are wounded just as easily and are far fewer in number.

[WestRider]

The Deployment shenanigans they've got and the extreme MSU nature of the list mean there's likely to be a lot of wasted/inefficient Scatterlaser fire going on. That list also had no Flyrants, it basically presented a completely different target profile. It was basically one big dude with a sledgehammer, compared to the swarm of ninja with shuriken that LictorShame presents.

[FTGTEvan]

In the case of Sean's list - that Corpsethief Claw creates some target priority issues for opponents and takes midboard with Scout and puts on pressure, leaving the Tyranid contingent to hem the enemy in and feed it to that grinder. Also not sure exactly what Sean's role in the team would be - which would determine the kind of matchups he's getting.

[rivercityhivemind]

Hey guys I am an old member with a New account. Could not remember my old password. I have been playing Nids for a very long time, I was one of the first to discover the ole "Nuke Choir" trick back in the hay day of 113 Dakka fexen. Just wanted to put that out there that I agree with FTGTEvan here and that this version of the codex is wide open and allows us to.... dare I say "adapt" to the environment ( events/missions) that are presented to us. As players we must embrace this and learn to change with the times. Perfect example here is what Sean is able to do with the bugs at an event such as the ETC/ATC format. He is able to take select units and pair them well with hard counters to very strategic events, that I am sure his team/capt. will be aiming for. So again, do not take this as "all Comers" lists. They are certainly not those, at least in the original sense of things. However, I don't think all comers list are what we as Nid players are striving for any way. We are predators, we must force our opponents into unfavorable situations and take advantage...this will require a little more than casting a psychic power, or spamming a gun on a unit...lol But I think that there has never been a better time to be a bug player, if for nothing more than the diversity of things we can do!

Mike V
RVA