Tervigon vs Tyrannofex

[drewski]

So I played my first game 7th Ed game the other night, and was completely disappointed in the Tervigon. I rolled doubles on my first spawn roll, and then for the rest of the game all it did was kill two guardians with shooting attacks and three guardian in cc. I don't see how the Tervigon is suppose to make up its points.

I was thinking of building my kit as a Tyrannofex. Do you guys get a lot of work out of it?

[xtztxtxz]

I found the best way to run a Tervigon is to get it into the Troops section then outflank it using the Hive Commander upgrade on a HT (or alternatively use a Tyrannocyte). Take one of the thorax weapon options and it's a pretty resilient backfield threat your opponent has to deal with. Don't think of a Tervigon in terms of killing things directly; it's capable of a swathe of supporting roles, like a giant bug-spawning swiss-army knife. Once dropped right in your opponent's face, it can:

Grab Linebreaker and use Objective Secured to contest enemy locations.
Act as another key synapse unit in the enemy backfield.
Spread Shadow in the Warp plus psychic effects.
Use Thorax weapons to threaten entrenched units, or cripple vehicles with Haywire.
Draw fire away from more threatening units like Flyrants.
All while screening itself with disposable spawned gaunts and being difficult to remove.

[j0rdan]

You'll feel differently about it when your luck swings the other way and your tervi manages to spawn 13, then 16, then 15, then 12 gaunts, and flips a vehicle before the end.

[terrorfromthedeep]

crushigon with ES grubs in a pod is 295 points - pricey but good MSU and backfield synapse / annoyance unit. Takes up a HQ slot but a good decent / fun alternative to flyrant spam

t-fexes are also good but totally different roles - better offensive shooting with AP4 and torrent, 2+ save and a heavy support choice - however I would prefer the tervigon as it's other benefits outweigh the shootiness of the tfex and 2+ save

[nikh]

If your Tervigon rolls doubles on its first spawn, it means you're playing it right.

[drewski]

Jun 17, 2015 13:53:27 GMT xtztxtxz said:

I found the best way to run a Tervigon is to get it into the Troops section then outflank it using the Hive Commander upgrade on a HT (or alternatively use a Tyrannocyte). Take one of the thorax weapon options and it's a pretty resilient backfield threat your opponent has to deal with. Don't think of a Tervigon in terms of killing things directly; it's capable of a swathe of supporting roles, like a giant bug-spawning swiss-army knife. Once dropped right in your opponent's face, it can:

Grab Linebreaker and use Objective Secured to contest enemy locations.
Act as another key synapse unit in the enemy backfield.
Spread Shadow in the Warp plus psychic effects.
Use Thorax weapons to threaten entrenched units, or cripple vehicles with Haywire.
Draw fire away from more threatening units like Flyrants.
All while screening itself with disposable spawned gaunts and being difficult to remove.

I will give this a try in my next game.

[N.I.B.]

I almost never field a Tervigon nowadays, I just don't have the 195 points + 120 tax points left over, or much backfield to secure. If I did, it would need to be built around. I'd probably not outflank it with upgrades - I can't afford overcosted MCs with synapse to NOT start on the table, providing buffs and claiming Tactical Objectives from turn 1.

I do field a T-fex now and then, preferably with Egrubs in a pod. I wish we had the Doompod for 140 points still, but Tfex does an ok job with his 2+ save and double templates.

[LordPathos]

The answer is obvious isn't it? You have one unit with great utility, an option for one the best weapons in our codex, AND you can drop it on your opponent's face with a pod. The other unit is a Tervigon. Pretty much you need to follow this perfect advice...*ahem*:

USE THE FLESHBORER HIVE!
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[dcoy]

Jun 20, 2015 18:33:27 GMT LordPathos said:

The answer is obvious isn't it? You have one unit with great utility, an option for one the best weapons in our codex, AND you can drop it on your opponent's face with a pod. The other unit is a Tervigon. Pretty much you need to follow this perfect advice...*ahem*:

USE THE FLESHBORER HIVE!
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Sweet baby Jesus, why didn't I think of that!  This could be the most brutal use of the fleshborer hive yet!

Also, objective secured double template troop tervigon + objective secured 6 wound pod is not fun to deal with when you still have upwards of 2-4 flyrants to take care of (from an enemy perspective).

[creatureboi]

Jun 21, 2015 4:31:10 GMT dcoy said:

Jun 20, 2015 18:33:27 GMT LordPathos said:

The answer is obvious isn't it? You have one unit with great utility, an option for one the best weapons in our codex, AND you can drop it on your opponent's face with a pod. The other unit is a Tervigon. Pretty much you need to follow this perfect advice...*ahem*:

USE THE FLESHBORER HIVE!
gifsound.com/?gifv=GXfyAGt&v=X3oOQ8XnQWU&s=75

Sweet baby Jesus, why didn't I think of that!  This could be the most brutal use of the fleshborer hive yet!

Also, objective secured double template troop tervigon + objective secured 6 wound pod is not fun to deal with when you still have upwards of 2-4 flyrants to take care of (from an enemy perspective).

I don't think the pod gets obsec. Only dedicated transports count as being from the section their parent unit comes from and you buy the pods separately, not as a unit upgrade like a rhino for example.

[dcoy]

Jun 22, 2015 18:25:46 GMT creatureboi said:

Jun 21, 2015 4:31:10 GMT dcoy said:

Sweet baby Jesus, why didn't I think of that!  This could be the most brutal use of the fleshborer hive yet!

Also, objective secured double template troop tervigon + objective secured 6 wound pod is not fun to deal with when you still have upwards of 2-4 flyrants to take care of (from an enemy perspective).

I don't think the pod gets obsec. Only dedicated transports count as being from the section their parent unit comes from and you buy the pods separately, not as a unit upgrade like a rhino for example.

Ah yea you're right.  It has to be dedicated for that.

[Halollet]

I've only run a tervigon a few times but its always felt naked without crushing claws. Str 5 really doesn't hit that hard and being able to nom nom some tanks while the giants tie up the not tanks is great.

[phayze]

Jun 25, 2015 20:44:45 GMT Halollet said:

I've only run a tervigon a few times but its always felt naked without crushing claws. Str 5 really doesn't hit that hard and being able to nom nom some tanks while the giants tie up the not tanks is great.

Tervigon is S/T6 the main problem with it's cc offensive abilities are the lack of attacks

[phayze]

WHOOPS my bad, looks like it IS S5... how have I never noticed this?

[gigasnail]

Because an MC with S5 is stupid.

Dont feel bad, I played 2-3 tervs in every list with our last codex and didn't realize they were S5 until the 6th ed brb dropped.