Most competitive builds ?

[Imasho]

Hi hive been away for a while just wondering what you think is the most competitive builds for the nids at 1500 or 1750?

[gigasnail]

There isn't really an answer to this. Most serious builds are going to have multiple flyrants and an MSU (multiple small unit) component for scoring, denial, or board presence. after that it varies wildly.

[emoge]

Codes: Brain leech Worms

As Gigasnail said, we don't have a set build. It's Flyrants until you run out of models, then go for what you like beyond there. Some prefer mucolids, some like malathropes, some like the Gargantuan hamsters, some like Rippers, some like Shrikes, some like lictors and mawlocs, I like carnifexes, some like pods, some like buildings, some like Tervigons, some like MSU warriors, some like gargoyles, some like harridan.....

So get those Flyrants then play what you like based on your playstyle while staying away from Pyrovores, Trygons, Tyranid Prime, Swarmlord, Haruspec, and Harpy

[mattblowers]

Jun 13, 2015 2:00:44 GMT emoge said:

So get those Flyrants then play what you like based on your playstyle while staying away from Pyrovores, Trygons, Tyranid Prime, Swarmlord, Haruspec, and Harpy

And therein lies the issue: pyrovores actually have a place when podded, swarmlord is ok when paired with a hierodule but anytime you play a GMC you're building your list around that and Harpies are in the Skyblight formation. We aren't the top dog anyway, so play what you like.

[Imasho]

Fair play i shall expirment with the bio blast node then. 3 fexs with re rolls to hit and wound sounds interesting. Thanks guys.

[wisdomseyes1]

I may be wrong since I have simply been lurking for a while, but haven't lictor builds been winning tournaments lately?

[gigasnail]

it's not a 'lictor build' exactly. it's 3 flyrants, 3 mawlocks, a bastion, a bunch of spores, and some lictors for objectives.

[N.I.B.]

The second version of #lictorshame had 6 Lictors I think. I tried to build a version based on local restrictions, but the new Demonkin laughed it off the table. Still, I'm not counting lictorshame out completely.

[gigasnail]

With new pod marines on the scene? that list as written isn't viable at this point, its null deployment would be shot off the table T1.

flyrants/mawlocks still going to be core, but lictorshame and it's variations are going to need to be completely retooled.

Time will tell on this one.

[Jabberwocky]

It may be a case of infiltrating lictors in every corner of the board (in terrain) to force the enemy to waste a pod+unit multiple times over in an attempt to table you.

[gigasnail]

Tabling him is unnecessary.

Edit: tabling isn't necessary to win the game; did you mean to avoid a first turn tabling? That's a good idea, but depending on build it wouldn't be impossible to pod over everything with OS pods And either kill/ignore the lictors.

Let's see what shakes out, should be interesting either way.

[Freeman]

I've been finding drop pod marines quite easy to deal with with lictor shame. Drop pod alpha strike is generally three pods tops so just deploying all 5 spore units has been enough to keep me alive. I just deploy one more unit than they are gonna be hitting me with. It's even better if you go second because pretty much all 5 pods will be on the table before you have to start committing anywhere.

Plus lictor shame is a nasty straight up counter to the current Eldar builds that are emerging. Flyrants and mamlocks murder scatter bikes with ease.

[gigasnail]

...drop pod alpha strike isn't generally 3 pods.

[Freeman]

It's 3-5 but if it's five they generally aren't that terrifying (ie multiple cent units). But the premise stands put down enough chaff for the alpha strike to not table you then spend the rest of the game destroying it.

[gigasnail]

lol, if you say so.