How many lictors?

[tylertt]

Hey all,

So I have decided that I want to make some Lictors out of the 9 Warriors I have from deathstorm kits.

Now my question to you all is, just how many should I make? I want the option to play some fun Lictor filled lists, but I am unsure on just how many Lictors to convert. I have a actual Deathleaper model, but no Lictors. I was thinking that 6 would be more then enough, though I wanted to hear the Hives input on this subject.

Thanks!

[WestRider]

Yeah, 6 should be plenty. That lets you either run an Assassin Brood or max out a CAD+Leviathan with singletons.

[gigasnail]

how many is the question, for sure. what's the rest of the list look like?

[krakentendrilswarm]

I would agree, no more than 6 regular Lictors plus Deathleaper for all but the most extreme situations.

If you're going to experiment with them, be sure to try out both the DLAB and Forest Brood formations as well. DLAB is great for objective grabbing and can be useful for leadership reductions / overwatch soaking. The Forest Brood is a lot less subtle, and only functions at its best in a forest-rich environment (gasp), but five Lictors charging is actually really quite scary for most opponents, as there is very little they cannot inflict a lot of hurt on. Costly though, and won't be charging until at least Turn 3 (you can make reasonable use of 10 S6 shots to damage the rear armour of something though, and then hide behind the wreck).

[tylertt]

Don't have a particular list made up yet, though that would help identify just how many I would need. I just want to ensure I make enough that they will be effective on the table. I suppose with how cheap Warriors are on ebay right now, it would be fairly easy to get more Warriors if I make 6 into Lictors and then decide to use the other 3 later on.

I made a sample list below, which made me think that 6 should be enough.

Hive Tyrant - Wings, x2 TL Devs, E-Grubs
Hive Tyrant - Wings, x2 TL Devs, E-Grubs

Malanthrope
Lictor

x5 Genestealers
x5 Genestealers
x3 Rippers - Deep Strike
x3 Rippers - Deep Strike

x15 Gargs

Carnifex - x2 TL Devs
Carnifex - x2 TL Devs
Carnifex - x2 TL Devs

Deathleaper Assassin Brood
Deathleaper
Lictor
Lictor
Lictor
Lictor
Lictor

[Kark]

Here is the list that uses 9 lictors (including deathleaper)

battlebrotherswh40k.blogspot.com/2014/11/tournament-winning-tyranid-list-lictors.html

There are also battle reports from the game

[tylertt]

I don't think I'd be running a list quite like his, but I may make a few more in the future. 6 seems like the sweet spot for them for me at least.

I've been checking out some cool conversions of Warriors to Lictors, and it has really motivated me to get this project on the go. All I have left on the backlog is the x9 Warriros/Lictors and the Genestealers/Broodlord from Deathstorm. So close to completion.

[Freeman]

Yeh I'd say 5 (possibly including DL) is the absolute minimum for a lictor spam list. Any less and you run the risk of only a couple coming in turn 3. If this happens they're dead easy without any of there tricks coming off.

I've played it a lot now and I run 8 in every game.

[kaguyaquincy]

I have 6 Lictors + Deathleaper, and that amount is perfect for me. I tingle every time an opponent says "roll for scatter"

[Osedaxx]

You should be running at LEAST 2 Mawlocs with that many Lictors.

[N.I.B.]

Since the Demonkin hit the scene I don't consider Lictors anymore. Fearless Flesh Hounds/Spawns/melta Bikers MSU with Heldrake and Soulgrinder support works like a vacuumcleaner that just inhales everything on the ground, mostly ignoring terrain. Lictors and Mawlocs are absolutely awful against them and only fuels the Bloodtithe machine.

[Kark]

Wolfstars (capable to multi-charge whole board on turn 2) also make lictors quite useless.

New eldars shouldn't have problems with lictors either. Same story with necrons.

MSU armies don't really have uses in ETC format as every mission awards kill points.

[Freeman]

Jun 1, 2015 12:15:56 GMT Kark said:

Wolfstars (capable to multi-charge whole board on turn 2) also make lictors quite useless.

New eldars shouldn't have problems with lictors either. Same story with necrons.

MSU armies don't really have uses in ETC format as every mission awards kill points.

I disagree about the Eldar. flyrants and mawlocs are a pretty hard counter to scatter bikes.

[Kark]

Jun 1, 2015 14:57:01 GMT Freeman said:

Jun 1, 2015 12:15:56 GMT Kark said:

Wolfstars (capable to multi-charge whole board on turn 2) also make lictors quite useless.

New eldars shouldn't have problems with lictors either. Same story with necrons.

MSU armies don't really have uses in ETC format as every mission awards kill points.

I disagree about the Eldar. flyrants and mawlocs are a pretty hard counter to scatter bikes.

The question was about lictors . Flyrants, mawlocs and hive crones are the best units that tyranids can field against eldars and on that I agree.

[jaysic]

Jun 1, 2015 15:21:18 GMT Kark said:

Jun 1, 2015 14:57:01 GMT Freeman said:

I disagree about the Eldar. flyrants and mawlocs are a pretty hard counter to scatter bikes.

The question was about lictors . Flyrants, mawlocs and hive crones are the best units that tyranids can field against eldars and on that I agree.

I absolutely destroyed an eldar with 3 wk, 30 shuriken bikes, and a farseer council with eldrad. He was generating something like 16+d6 warp charges, too. CC nids go go go. Shrikes and 1 cc tyrant did the heavy lifting.