Eldar incoming

[gigasnail]

New eldar codex, pre-order this friday. WD early birds have some crazy stuff confirmed, but still need clarification on a few points. Bikes look absolutely foul, tons of S6 shooting. Laser lock seems gone though. WK are GCM now with actual D-weapons.

Crazy. More details as I actually have some.

[voracious]

If this rumours are true (need clarification on a few points, how you ask) I ask this question...

How is possible for a Hive Fleet Kraken almost obliterate the eldars in Iyanden?

or Valedor?

With this I see the tyranids how to the new punching ball, viewing all the evolution (the real evolution) of the rest of armies in the galaxy (except tyranids, of course) it's seriously sad...

[gigasnail]

Well, you know. Fluff=/=rules.

[blackrainbow]

How long was it between their last codex and this one? Not saying I'm hopeful for a new nid book, but over the horizon is close enough to get my hopes up. Also, I assume the new book is using the new detachments and formations style, so any news on that is primo.

[FTGT-BeeCee]

good luck vs codex scatter laser. man those jetbikes are brutal.

[gigasnail]

seriously, lol. it's insane. a new level of bunny-boiling ex-wife crazy. i just do not even know at this point.

[blackrainbow]

Just another bump in the ride. 'Least we still have cool models.

[gigasnail]

no, seriously, so far (looking at the actual unit profiles in the vidya here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhSOv3MjHE0 thanks wargamer shawn!), scatriders are the stupidest thing i've seen in 32 years of gaming. 27 ppm for an eldar jetbike with a scatterlaser (S:6, AP:6, Heavy:4, 36" range) that can come in units of 10 (11 if you count the warlock, though it's unclear if he can take a scatgun too), plus a level 3 seer on a bike fishing for the nasty div powers. if it were just a FA choice, you know, i could maybe see it (and it would still be awful, sheesh), but this is a troop lol. bikes put out twice the firepower of a wave serpent, point for point (not hyperbole, it's about X2 and it's nearly TL by default because of primaris powers on the seer).

you can take up to 12 WK now in the eldar super/umbrella formation, for a 500ish point tax of already great units. going to be awful hard to tarpit them now that they have stomp.

[FTGT-BeeCee]

I have been trying to wrap my head around this all night. yes we haven't seen the whole picture yet but dayum. all that str 6 shooting at 36" range, on a jetbike that can flat out and go a total of 48" in a turn,and has a 2d6" thrust move so it can just jockey back in forth out of LoS for 2 turns.

6x5 scatter laser jetbikes = 120 bs 4 str 6 shots for 810 pts. Leaving you 1040 more for elder trickery.

[jawsgid]

This is just ridiculous

[Kark]

I also wonder what psychic disciplines will farseer/warlock have access to. WK with 4++, rerolls to hit, perfect timing, invisibility and so on. Jetbikes will be popular so we can expect warlock spam as well, just for getting right psychic powers.

[bolk]

Wraithknight is a GC now? FML, like that thing wasn't tough enough... Feel No Pain, Stomp, Split fire etc. It helps that it's a LOW, but it also depends on what it'll cost now pointswise.

[Jabberwocky]

Before adding divination, 4 bikes is roughly equivalent to a dakkafex in points and power except we get T6 multi wound to their T4 multi model.

The real game changer is the mobility, OS and easy buffability.

[bolk]

www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/04/40k-craftworld-eldar-rules-inbound.html

WTF? -.-

[gigasnail]

Apr 15, 2015 6:49:15 GMT bolk said:

Wraithknight is a GC now? FML, like that thing wasn't tough enough... Feel No Pain, Stomp, Split fire etc. It helps that it's a LOW, but it also depends on what it'll cost now pointswise.

it doesn't matter that it's a LoW, you can take 12 of them (i wasn't kidding) in the eldar umbrella formation, depending on points, for a @500 base cost of HQ's and troops.