New Harlequins best 40K models

[mattblowers]

They really are and I don't think it's close. My models haven't hit the tabletop yet, so I don't know how they'll play (seem to be a really powerful really glassy cannon). The models are spectacular. Not only that, but they are master models in terms of how they build. They are intricate and detailed beyond anything I have seen put out by GW. The amount of dynamics they have worked into the models just surprises me. On top of that, everything is so easy to build. It seems like they thought of everything. It just fits/works. It easily could have been a nightmare to build, but it's not. Even down to the way things are attached to the sprue so you can clip them off easily and not have much, if any, clean up to do. And I don't know if anyone has seen the new clear bases, but they now have a ball instead of that tiny stem for attaching to the model. This should stop that breakage you always get those stems and it allows you to pose the model at any angle. I couldn't believe I was spending $32 for 2 bikes (my FLGS sells them at nearly 20% off MSRP) or one small transport, but these models are awesome. They are worth every penny. GW gets a lot of grief for a lot of things, but this is a home run. The quality is out of this world and is a big step up in quality and design. They are not resting on their laurels but continuing to improve. This will win out in the long run, GW, despite all the naysayers, is gonna be just fine business wise when they continue to put out such a great product. If you are a fan of Admech or Genestealer cults, you should be very excited.

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Man and the codex seems like it's a BLAST to play. Oldschool fleet+modern fleet for the detachment(aka reroll run, and reroll charge, and do both in the same turn)? Possible 5 point upgrade to give squads +D3 str 6 HoW attacks? Possible upgrade on troops to give them oldschool rending(on the to hit roll)?

Good psychic powers with an awesome primaris.

Good warlord traits, three charts worth.

I almost want to sell my space pups and start a quin army. It just seems like such a fun assaulty army. 

[gigasnail]

One of my main opponents is an eldar player and has been gaga over the codex. I'll let you know how it goes.

[Hivefleet Oblivion]

Yeah… but what about painting them?

We actually have a bunch of the metal harlequins, bought that issue of White Dwarf thinking "great" but the thought of painting all those diamonds makes me feel dizzy.

Re the models; yes, actually the quality of some recent GW is superb. That's matched by others which have unforgivable cutting and pasting - like the tyranocyte, the recent urban board - but a lot of it is amazing. I was staggered also by the beautiful quality of the Space Hulk models. They're terrific.

[rpricew]

Feb 25, 2015 21:42:37 GMT Hivefleet Oblivion said:

Yeah… but what about painting them?

We actually have a bunch of the metal harlequins, bought that issue of White Dwarf thinking "great" but the thought of painting all those diamonds makes me feel dizzy.

First Harlequin to hit the painting table

[misterdutch]

I agree with the model quality from GW as of late. I am used to old models like older tactical marines, high elf spearmen etc. I remember struggling so much with mouldlines and clunky, ugly models with little detail. But newer mouls are like, woah.. so much of an improvement compared my my previous experiences. Really outstanding. It predicts a good thing for warhammer future!

[N.I.B.]

Misleading topic. Best models =/= best army. Just saying.

[mattblowers]

I thought the joke was obvious as the hard copy of the codex isn't even in anyone's hands yet, no attempt to mislead.

rpricew: nice job on the diamond patterns. That part of painting the army means I'm gonna have to step up my skills.

[rpricew]

There are 3 people in our gaming group who want to start a Harlequin detachment... I only have 1 Shadowseer, 2 Deathjesters and 12 Troupe... I may buy 2 transports and one Voidweaver and a couple of bikes, but some of them have bought 2k points worth.

I don't envy their willingness to paint that many checkerboards...

[mattblowers]

I bought 8 bikes, 3 transports, and converted 3 vypers to the heavy type. I also bought the solitaire and built 14 more troupe players out of two more boxes. That's in addition to the 30 I already had. I have a ton of painting to do.

[robomummy]

To those of you who have the codex, how good would a harlequin only army be? I want to run harlequins but don't really want to run any allies with them.

[forteh]

I have an epub version and planning on buying the hardback soon; Ive got 25+ rogue trader era harlequins that I picked up last year with the intention of doing a counts as clown armybut not got round to painting them. With the release of the codex I am enthused to get them done.

If you buy the new fast and heavy units I would imagine you should be able to run clowns only without much difficulty in a non competitive scenario, not sure how they would go against a top tier list. The problem is the general low model count (1000 points gives about 20 troupers, deathjester, solitaire and a couple of shadowseers) and fragility if you derp and drop yourself in it.

Some of the formations give nice bonuses such as the all fleet units (army wide for foot troops) can run and charge from turn 2 onwards. Without using the formations you're stuck as unbound because of no HQ slots so it's better if you can utilise them. I have it on my phone if you want any specific questions answering

I'm not planning on using any of the new models (as lovely as they are), just a footslogging clown army for (please do not swear) and giggles, a bit like my deathwing really

[harrytown]

I think they can do well at lower point levels but when you start to get above 1500 they struggle. They lack good anti tank from shooting and they have no anti air. It also get difficult at higher point values when you have a much smaller amount of models then your opponents. You have to be very careful how you play them as loosing one unit to poor placement can be a huge chunk of your army. I think they work great with dark eldar allies

[mattblowers]

Mar 3, 2015 15:58:20 GMT harrytown said:

They lack good anti tank from shooting and they have no anti air.

6 haywire blasts should do the trick and haywire grenades for all troupe maters. Fusion pistols in an open topped transport. Both are respectable options but not top notch.

[forteh]

A quick question on the grenades if you will, I'm not familiar with how grenades work in melee (as neither my tyranid or deathwing army use them ).

All harlequins carry plasma grenades which are S4 AP4, when using them in melee is it just one grenade attack per unit or per model or can they be used instead of other melee weapons effectively giving all harlequins S4 AP4 cc attacks?

What are peoples thoughts on minimum troupe size load outs with regards to embrace (D3 S6 HoW), caress (rending on 6 to hit) and kiss (single S6 AP2 with ID on wound roll of 6)? I'm looking at: -
Master with embrace/neuro disruptor/haywire
Player with caress/shuriken
Player with caress/shuriken
Player with embrace/shuriken
Player with kiss/shuriken

Works out to be almost 29pts a model average but should hit most targets pretty hard. I love the fact you can give everyone neuro disruptors