Stonecrusher question

[gunnersabottank]

So I'm planning to convert a Stonecrusher but don't yet have IA4. Is that wrecking ball arm a good enough option for me to put in the time/effort to make one or am I better off sticking with the massive crushing claws?

[blackrainbow]

I use the larger crushing claws from my (magnetized) haruspex.
The following are from memory for the Stonecrusher.

Wrecker Claws have the best AP and two specials rules, wrecker and sunder.
Wrecker works wonders on removing walls and fortification.
Sunder ups the chance to get passed armors.

[xtztxtxz]

The wrecker claws are best for really heavy armour (AV14-15) on big targets like Titans or fortifications. They're practically designed for Apoc to be honest.

The wrecking ball (bio-flail) is a hard counter to tough MCs, GCs and elite multi-wound infantry. It's S10 AP1 Instant Death and lets you make one attack per model in base contact. Pretty good for dealing with Wraithknights, PK Nobz, Paladins, etc. It's probably a better all-round option if you don't play Apoc much.

The carapace chitin-rams improve Hammer of Wrath attacks for both kinds of targets.

[gunnersabottank]

Sweet, thanks guys

[blackrainbow]

As a note, the stonecrusher model looks wicked sweet. If that's a factor.

[swarm492]

Dec 12, 2014 14:45:03 GMT blackrainbow said:

As a note, the stonecrusher model looks wicked sweet. If that's a factor.

Gotta factor in the Rule of Cool.

[creatureboi]

Dec 12, 2014 17:59:10 GMT swarm492 said:

Dec 12, 2014 14:45:03 GMT blackrainbow said:

As a note, the stonecrusher model looks wicked sweet. If that's a factor.

Gotta factor in the Rule of Cool.

In this case, rule of cool, plus cool actual rules. Definitely have these on my "must buy" list. Along with several hundred other things. Darn plastic crack...

[russellr]

The lack of attacks seems to make it less awesome than a normal fex with crushing claws. The extra survivability is great though.

If you guys took something to eat a land raider or similar in assault, would you go for the stone crusher or the standard one?

[jaysic]

They're almost identical but the AG fex wins slightly if min maxing damage output.

The Stone crusher wins against knights for the D3 ap2 tank hunter i10 HoW hits...if it gets to charge.
It's survivability against shooting is significant better against S6/7/8 weapons.

Lack of fleet really hampers it though.
LOOKS SUPERANTISPYWARE BADASS

[seanster3000]

I bought a Stonecrusher with the Bio-Flail and here's why: The Bio-Flail option has more versatility, in my opinion, than the pure Claw variant. Yes the Claw version makes a mockery of Fortifications and Vehicles but it lacks in having multiple attacks. Now the Bio-Flail version can still rock vehicles (not like his Clawed cousin!) and he typically can generate more attacks due to the Bio-Flail's rules. For me I greatly lean towards the Bio-Flail.

[bolk]

Dec 13, 2014 3:13:16 GMT jaysic said:

They're almost identical but the AG fex wins slightly if min maxing damage output.

The Stone crusher wins against knights for the D3 ap2 tank hunter i10 HoW hits...if it gets to charge.
It's survivability against shooting is significant better against S6/7/8 weapons.

Lack of fleet really hampers it though.
LOOKS SUPERANTISPYWARE BADASS

The HoW hits are Armourbane, not Tank Hunter

[blackrainbow]

Just for tanks, regular with AG.

[saxif]

I think I would also go flail, even with reinforced chitin I doubt an opponent would let you get to his tank or even cortification if he could help it and tanks move quicker than fexes!

Having said that, I still want one, when you buy them does it come as a complete model or just bolt ons to the existing model?

Has anyone run either and noticed a difference in how long it lasts?

I just got Deathstorm, so I have a spare fex and am wondering how to make him, I hadn't considered a conversion. Though I am unsure how without making it look a bit amateur.

[mandollies]

It comes with a complete fex kit but has a few bolt on resin pieces (I just put together both today)

[rpricew]

Dec 14, 2014 10:09:47 GMT saxif said:

I think I would also go flail, even with reinforced chitin I doubt an opponent would let you get to his tank or even cortification if he could help it and tanks move quicker than fexes!

Having said that, I still want one, when you buy them does it come as a complete model or just bolt ons to the existing model?

Has anyone run either and noticed a difference in how long it lasts?

I just got Deathstorm, so I have a spare fex and am wondering how to make him, I hadn't considered a conversion. Though I am unsure how without making it look a bit amateur.

Stonecrusher lasts a little bit longer than regular fex, due to the -1 Str shooting. But not by much. Most things that are shooting at a Fex, or any TMC, are usually shooting things that are high volume and/or high strength anyway.

Small arms fire still wounds on a 6+ (except for Str 3 Shooting)
Heavy Bolters wound on a 6+ instead of a 5+
Assault Cannons wound on a 5+ instead of a 4+
Autocannons wound on a 4+ instead of 3+,
Meltaguns & Krak Missiles wound on a 3+ instead of a 2+
Lascannons wound on a 2+ still

I ran 2 in two games recently, and they really put the fear in my opponent. (I don't know why, but they really fear that Str 10 AP 2 Hammer of Wrath attack)