New player, 1st 500 pts

[xelacaz]

New to playing the game.  Making a small list of 500 pts to play against a friend that plays Grey Knights or Eldar.  Not really looking to pick a specific list to defeat him, just wanting a balanced list that is more swarmy oriented and something that I can expand from.  This is what I was thinking:


1x Tyranid Prime, Scything Talons, Rending Claws, Adrenal Glands
1x Zoanthrope
1x Zoanthrope
20x Termagaunts, Fleshborers
20x Termagaunts, Fleshborers
19x Hormagaunts, Scything Talons

Zoan`s used to support and strong save and synapse.  HQ attached to a squad for wound allocation so the Prime can get close.


Please post any comments to help a new player!  Thanks in advance!

[vectron]

I think that's a solid fluffy swarm list. Certainly not the hardest list you can come up with for 500 points, and will fall apart if the zoans die, but non the less it should be fun.

Against GK at least you should be able to just tarpit him and secure enough objectives to win, Eldar could be more tricky depending on what he brings. Remember to have sufficient cover on the table, cover saves are your friend. Squeeze in a Venomthrope if you want to toughen the list up.

[xelacaz]

Would a swap of a Zoan for a Venom work?

[gigasnail]

HQ terv pretty nasty at 500.

Flyrant is even nastier.

Prime I am not a fan of.

[vectron]

Prime is certainly overcosted, however in a non-competitive setting Flyrant and Terv usually are a bit over the top. Why can't Zoans be HQs? :/

[xelacaz]

Unfortunately, I don't own a Tervigon. And a Flying Hive Tyrant at that low points, wouldn't it just get focused down quickly? Is it really that sturdy and can keep up? I would have way fewer units on the table. I don't know, but I appreciate all the feedback. Can you give examples of what makes the Prime overcosted or a link to an article talking about it?

[gigasnail]

Lol, focused down by what?

[xelacaz]

I don't know? I am new and not super familiar with all the rules and what other armies can field. How do other armies take down a Flyrant?

[gigasnail]

By shooting a lot more than 500 points worth of guys at it. Flyrant at 500 is brutal. It's one of, if not the best unit in the codex.

To answer your other question, check out the tyranid prime, and his cost and options and realize he was 60ish points last codex.

Now go look at a space marine captain and his options and cost.

Tprime is awful.

[vectron]

Well, it did cost only 90 points in the last codex, and got a points hike with no improvements, so I think that justifies calling it overpriced. It wasn't like it was a powerhouse before either. The big HQs are definitely a a bit more of a gamble in low points games since you have no redundancy, though a Flyrant isn't that easy to take down if avoid going straight up the midfield.

[gigasnail]

Lol a flyrants not a gamble at 500 points or 2500 points

[jimmyp]

tyranid prime shouldn't even be in the HQ slot its basically a SGT equivalent, should of been just a optional extra to upgrade a warrior brood etc for 40 points etc.

[jimmyp]

try this 500 points list i used

flyrant with TLDBLW and elecroshock grubs
1 zoanathrope
1 venomthrope
10 termagants
10 termagants
14 gargoyles

thats a fun list to use

[xelacaz]

What would a 500 pt list with a flyrant look like?

[xelacaz]

Oh sorry! Just saw that post. Thank you for that list!