First game against knights

[free]

Hi guys,

Just needed to tell someone...

I played my first game against knights and came out on top. He fielded 2 knights, 2 fliers and 2 Thunderfire cannons. 1500 points, maelstrom (Cloak and shadows (#5)) he went first. It was a really close and good game but he was tabled turn 5 thanks to all the good tactical advice I had read here on the Hive.

I will try to write a bit better description of the game when I am at a computer.

[jimmyp]

good stuff sounds great

[Osedaxx]

Jesus, he took that in a 1500 point game? I'm GLAD you won, that's a borderline douche bag list at that point value. It's kinda like taking the Doom of Malantai and a Broodlord in a Kill Team game. What did you bring to beat that?

[akiranid]

My friend I salute you in your excellent triumph, well done Iam looking forward to hearing more about this win

[free]

His list was:
2 palladins, 1 storm raven, 1 storm wolf, 2 thunder fire cannon and 1 grey hunter

Warlord trait: Lead by example

My list was:
3 x Dakkarant w egrubs
1 x 1 Venom
1 x 1 Zoan
3 x 3 DS Rippers
1 x 1 Crone
LAN

Warlord trait: Conqueror of Cities
Psychic Powers: paroxysm, 2x Catalyst, 3x Onslaught, Psychic Scream
(During the entire game I used 2 catalyst per turn plus paroxysm mostly on the 2nd Knight.)

I deployed first but he seized initiative

No night fighting

Terrain: Two ruins in each deployment zone, a hill in the middle of the board surrounded by some craters and woods.

Deployment: I set up everything in the two ruins. Exo, Zoan and one ripper in the leftone and Venom, Warriors, bios and warlord in the right one. with the venom hiding outside of LOS. Crone and 2 Flyrants in front of the ruin but within 6” of the venom.
He set up the Thunderfires in a ruin (one on 2nd floor) each and reinforced for a 3+ coversave. One knight on my right side (the warlord) and the other a bit more towards the middle. The grey hunters in the Storm Wolf in reserve and the stormraven in reserve.

Objectives: one close to or in each of the ruins and one on each side of the hill towards each deployment zone.

First turn: He moves up one of the knights while the other secures one of the objectives He shoots and only manages to put a wound on the crone and to kill one or two rippers and the zoan thanks to the coversaves, 2+ Jink and FNP.
The flyrants fly up the board and puts one wound on one of the Thunderfires then runs off the board together with the crone.

Second turn: The Warlord Knight Advances, Stormwolf comes in and zooms up the board behind the warlord. Stormraven fails to arrive. Kills the remaining two rippers and puts a wound on a biovore.
The 2 ripper units come in and DS on objectives. The 2 flyrants DS on different sides of the Warlord and my warlord flyrants fly out of the cover infront of the Warlord knight. Warlord Flyrant perils and crashes`so down 2 wounds. Shield in front, shoots with Exo=nothing, Flyrant from back= 4 glances, Flyrant from Side= 2 glances… BOOM! Crone fires missiles at Storm Wolf= one pen (crew shaken) Flyrant shoots stormraven= one glance.

Third Turn: Sad faces… Storm Raven comes in Storm Wolf flies out(?). Many cover saves, Crone takes 2 wounds, a couple of dead rippers and dead grounded Warlord flyrant.
I take out Storm Raven and take 3 HP off the remaining knight.

Fourth turn: Moves up remaining knight, Storm Wolf comes in again. Stormwolf tries to take out a flyrant but poor rolls and jink saves him. 2 dead biovores.
I take out one Thunderfire cannon and the Storm Wolf. 2 grey hunters survive. Exo takes 1 HP off the Knight.

Fifth turn: Knight moves up and tries to charge the Exo but too far, Grey hunters go into cover in the ruin.
I kill the Grey hunters and the remaining Thunderfire. Exo takes one more HP off the Knight

END OF GAME, SCORE 9-8 Tyranids (I had bad objective cards and he rolled bad for shooting so I guess that evens out)

We also played another turn just for fun:

Sixth turn: Knight charges exo, puts 4 wounds on him and exo smashes him to death.
I then managed to score another 5 points.

Some learnings:
1) using onslaught to shoot and then run off the board
2) extremely good to surround the knights to avoid the shield
3) knights are significantly slowed by difficult terrain
4) i still like my rippers

[Mauler]

Seems like a fun unbound game

[javaman21011]

Well free has a CAD and AD there, so at least 1 person isn't unbound!

[Jabberwocky]

Sept 28, 2014 21:29:12 GMT javaman21011 said:

Well free has a CAD and AD there, so at least 1 person isn't unbound!

Technically self ally isn't in the rules. Though fitting in another ripper brood wouldn't have been that hard.

[javaman21011]

True, but most LGS are ok with self ally and consider it Bound. I see this problem as a lack of oversight on GW's part.

[saxif]

I need to re read the rules but right now it is late and I am in bed. I thought 1 extra HQ and a troop was legal self ally? Or do tyrniads get shafted in some way I am unaware of?

[gigasnail]

you just can't, by the book, self ally as it's specifically stated the ally detachment must be from a different faction.

[Kwodd]

Self ally is the half ass compromise put forth by TOs that fear double CAD.

[gigasnail]

But-but onichan, what are we going to do with 4 flyrants??

[free]

Correct. According to the rules Tyranids are not allowed to self ally but in our LGS its ok to self ally to count as battle forged. This is the list I also use for our local tournament.

In the tournament I have played DA (soft list), deamon summoning with Belakor, unbound ork list and white scars all bikes. Only the bikes beat it so far.

[gigasnail]

Yeah we do self ally here too, it's nice.