Orbital Barrage

[gartham]

I have run into a situation where my SM opponent used his Orbital Barrage on a group of zoanthropes and hormaguant that were all in range of my venomthrope, and in open ground. His large blast hit perfectly and he says I can use any cover save against this.

After reading the rules, I'm really not sure myself.

Has anyone come across this before? What is the general consensus about a cover save?

[tylertt]

Being in open ground they would not get any cover saves for intervening terrain if it was barrage profile (I believe it is, but not 100% on my Marine rules).

Regardless you would get your shrouded save from the venomthrope. So +5 at minimum.

[gartham]

I thought so, we had a massive arguement over it and he accused me of cheating. In the end I just took the hit, but havent played him since.

Anywhere specific in the rulebook or codex that I could use?

[tylertt]

Check under the shrouded ruling. I don't got either my book or dex on me for page #s. I'm sure someone else shall assist us shortly .

Good on you too. People like that are not worth your gaming time.

[Jabberwocky]

Show him shrouded where it says you gain a cover save even in open ground. Then ask him to show you the barrage rule that says ALL cover saves are ignored, as opposed to ignoring intervening models/terrain (which is what barrage does).

[doomminion]

I am unfamiliar with Orbital blast.
It would need the Ignores Cover USR to work like he said it does.
If it doesn't have ignores cover then it works like any other blast and you get your +2 cover save from shrouded meaning you get a total cover save of 5+

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[gigasnail]

it's just a barrage; ignores intervening cover. does nothing to shrouded, or for just being in terrain. still a 2+ if shrouded in terrain, etc. as noted, if you're flat footed in the open w/ just shrouded, you get a 5+ cover save.

[Silegy]

Jul 31, 2014 14:27:00 GMT gartham said:

I thought so, we had a massive arguement over it and he accused me of cheating. In the end I just took the hit, but havent played him since.

Anywhere specific in the rulebook or codex that I could use?

Yup, better wait few years till he turns 15 and try again.
Seriously, I understand that people do not know every single dog gamn codex, but hell, at least they should read the basic USRs. And when I dont know the rules for sure, I shut my wh..ore mouth and open the rulebook. And if neither of us is 100% sure and we dont have the rulebook, just roll who is right or something. Sheesh, the hormones...
And I am saying this as the guy known in the entire elementary school for not being able to bear losses, the testosteron rager. So I have no idea whats wrong with these people nowadays.