New Tyranid Rumors

[atrocity]

I need to get my another flyrant

[t⊗theark]

Aug 20, 2013 17:41:31 GMT coredump said:

While I don't necessarily trust them.... I kinda like those Faet rumors.

Salt, WE NEED MORE SALT!

[Raven]

There are also army wide FoC changes based on your Hive Tyrant. Wings give you the option to take Gargoyles as your compulsory troops (so max 2) for instance. Bonded carapace let's you take Carnifex's as elites as well as heavy support (but can't be more than a certain number of points, so they end up kinda baby).

Words cannot express how excited I will be if this turns out to be true.

[coredump]

Aug 20, 2013 22:32:55 GMT yoritomo said:

I really hope tyranid warriors don't become veteran sergeants. If I wanted to play an army with veteran sergeants I'd whip out my marine army.

Damn it. I was all excited about that... until you went and put it in perspective. Now it kinda sucks...

I also don't think GW realizes why not having allies is a problem. In the end it isn't about having a larger FOC, it's about the abilities that the other army adds to your own.

This is, of course, completely spot on. But I really don't want allies, but we really need something to help compensate. Hopefully there will be enough options in the Nid dex that we won't be hurt that much with the lack of ally availability.

[omnivore]

Psychic powers "a lot worse" than they are now? I don't like the sound of that

[infornography]

Yeah, that is vague enough to mean almost anything. Does it mean we are losing the ability to have psyker powers in exchange for tyranid only hive mind powers which means no more biomancy? Is it just that we will no longer get as many powers to choose from? (which I had assumed would happen anyway)

I would be surprised if we continue to get the ability to buy 3 powers for a mastery level 1 psyker

Maybe they just mean shadow in the warp will no longer be as powerful as it currently is, which again, I expected.

[t⊗theark]

Aug 21, 2013 2:58:00 GMT omnivore said:

Psychic powers "a lot worse" than they are now? I don't like the sound of that

Well there's quite a bit of room for them to be worse and still useful. We're in a list with warplance, pyroxysm and catalyst - I think it's safe to say we have some pretty boss default psychic powers at our disposal.

[webebuggin]

Anddddd even more goodness has popped up! on Faeit. Looks like POSSIBLE playtesting rules from the chans, tons of new and pretty interesting info. Some of it strange, some awesome, some depressing. Worth a read.

Army-wide notes
- No FOC and ally table changes
- Devastation and Adaptation are new power tables with 3 powers each + primaris.
- Primaris for Devastation = Warp Blast, Adaptation = Onslaught (similar to battle-focus)
- All Tyranid powers can be used with either one or two charges to increase the effect.
- Ravenous Advance: Units with this rule can run & assault in the same turn.
- The Ground Trembles: All MC cause d3 Hammer of Wrath hits.
- Red Terror, Deathleaper and Old One Eye are unique upgrades to their respective broods.

-Harpy/Erinye, plastic dual kit.
- Harpy is designed to kill infantry hordes/provide support via its special vector strike.
- Vector striking it can either use Spore Mine Cyst to create blasts along the path or Sonic Screech to halve initiative and cause a pinning test.

- Erinye is an AA variant in Elite, very different front torso/head piece with gribbly tentacles.
- Increased Swoop speed and its gimmick is grappling other flyers.
- Vector strike -> dice roll 4+ -> the enemy flyer is dragged directly behind where the Erinye ended its move, including a new facing.
- Both can buy broods of Gargoyles that can drop off in the movement phase when not vector striking.

-Zoanthrope (Doom)/Genethrope, plastic dual kit.
- Zoanthropes are ML1 psykers, have access to the Devastation, Telepathy, Telekinesis tables.
- Genethropes are similar, but have access to the Adaptation and Biomancy tables.
- New unique biomorphs. Increased Shadow in the Warp range, Deny the Witch boost aura, two others.

- Both types can upgrade up to ML2 but only ever get 1 power, each Elite choice is a unit of 1-3 that can contain mixded Zoan and Gene.

- Doom has access to all the above tables and comes with Essence Leech and 3 powers.
- Consumes a wound every time it uses a power (except for Leech), but can keep casting until a Perils roll or its down to 1 wound.

Mycetic Spore/Mycetic Hive Node, plastic dual kit
- Spore is a Dedicated Transport, notable changes are that SC can join and MC broods can all opt to get spores.

- Hive Nodes are bought by HQ models (1-3 choice for Tyrants, 1 for every other HQ), no transport capacity.
- Nodes provide Synapse and can be configured in one of many ways. Grants poison or shrouding to nearby units or terraforms (Dangerous Terrain) the surroundings.

Carnifex
- Old unused bimorphs in the box are options again.
- Base cost the same but upgrades are much, much cheaper overall but lots of "only buy 1 out of this list" kind of choices which greatly limits what a fex can have.
- Tusked gives HoW an AP value, Thornback increases the number of HoW hits.
- Enhanced Senses gives Night Fighting.
- Tail Scythe & Tail Mace each deliver a single hit to all models in BtB at Ini 1, with different stats.
- Living Battering Ram rule: Changed to allow the Carnifex to assault the contents of a building/transport on a 4+ if it was destroyed by its charge, rolled once for the brood.


Thoughts? I REALLY like the sound of that new living battering ram. And Ravenous Advance sounds exactly like what nids need.

Also I dont care how effective it is at crossing table, I have enough fexs to max out all those slots so I am building a bugzilla list if you can take them in elites with that tyrant (rumored)

[infornography]

now THAT sounds like a wishlist, but not an infeasible one. I'm hoping this one is more right than the previous ones.

[webebuggin]

Right? The nodes (sounding very zerg-ish) sound freaking cool for spreading control, no details yet on structures though. New Harpy sounds pretty awesome if any of that is true. Red Terror comeback YES PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE. Holy smokes if he gets character status for dueling purposes and could EAT champions on small sized bases...Ohhhhh.

[arnestig]

Take with extra salt, extra extra.

[t⊗theark]

Wow, I've never felt so skeptical in my life.

Yeah, that's a lot of salt.

[gigasnail]

we all gonna be eating lots of crow when ravenous advance is real and hormagants, genestealers and ravenors are our new overlords.

[alwayswanted2bnids]

Aug 21, 2013 5:37:35 GMT gigasnail said:

we all gonna be eating lots of crow when ravenous advance is real and hormagants, genestealers and ravenors are our new overlords.

If that is the case it will prove why I was right buying loads of stealers on the cheap on eBay when everyone was selling them for virtually nothing!

[gigasnail]

i still have all mine in a box, waiting and hungry.