[1000] Tyranids - Death List

[akaiyou]

SHOWCASING

Theme:
Deathleaper-centric list

List Performance:
2 Wins, 0 Draws, 0 Losses

Overall Theme Performance:
2 Wins, 0 Draws, 1 Losses

1000 Pts - Tyranids Roster - Death

HQ:
. . 1 Tervigon, 210 pts (Cluster Spines; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Dominion; Catalyst; Onslaught)
. . 1 Tervigon, 210 pts (Cluster Spines; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Dominion; Catalyst; Onslaught)

Elite:
. . 1 Deathleaper, 140 pts

Troops:
. . 10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts
. . 10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts

Heavy Support:
. . 1 Mawloc, 170 pts
. . 1 Mawloc, 170 pts

Total Roster Cost: 1000


I have yet to play any games of 6th ed and was considering this to be my starting list for my first couple games.
I wanted to run the deathleaper and see how he fairs in 6th ed. Anyone used him yet?
I'm swapping the 3 tervigon powers for Biomancy since it seems like Tervigons can make great use of a lot of the powers listed on there.

Mawlocs can deal with fliers Mega-Shark style until FAQ says otherwise. And the deathleaper can help bring them in with pin-point accuracy.

I'm not looking for edits/list building suggestions. I welcome comments or strategic suggestions, specially those from players who have used the units included in this list already in 6th ed. I'd love to discuss what uses you've found for them

[swarm492]

I'm really interested to see how the list does, I really like the fluff of death and hope he performs. Let us know how the list performs.

[akaiyou]

I agree the deathleaper fluff is one of the main reasons i want an army where he's the centerpiece.

[swarm492]

I really wish they made lictors like they were back in 2nd edd. Stop giving me more of them to make up for the fact each one sucks, Give me one per elite slot at like 150 to 160 pnts each and make it really really bad@ss.

[paxmiles]

You realize that template weapons can't hit flyers, nor can assaulting units?

In other words, you should be pretty much unable to kill any flyers at all. Dunno if opponents are running them in your area, but it presents another dimension to list building, especially for tyranids.
-Pax

[madman37]

I would make one of the Tervs a troop. No reason not to and now it can claim objectives.

[gloomfang]

Looks workable. Just remember to not always go Biomancy. If flyers show up then go TK and you you have a better than not chance of getting OM at least once. Might also think about swaping out the spines if you start seeing a lot of flyers as well.

[coredump]

Probably not a lot of flyers at 1K. And evenso, still can concentrate on the ground army and kill it instead.

What is your role for DLeaper? To target the Mawlocs?

[squidy]

Jul 19, 2012 21:12:08 GMT coredump said:

Probably not a lot of flyers at 1K

Well, he probably is still going to want some sort of anti flyer. The only thing in his army that can hurt a flyer is Deathleaper and his shooting is so meager it doesn't count.

[Talonis]

As a Deathleaper themed army this doesn't lend alot to his fluff.

Deathleaper would be ahead of the hive fleets main invasion force, there wouldn't be tervigons, probably not even mawlocs. There would be more lictors, stealers and then probably followed by gaunts in pods and gargoyles.
Then maybe a tervigon would arrive by reserves ect..

By fluff aside, you could move one of those tervigons to the troops slot, replace a mawloc with something which could hit flyers.

Good luck with this list anyway, be sure to post pics of any battles and have fun with Deathleaper... Once you figure out howto use him he is awesome

[coredump]

Guys, read his post again. He is in the camp saying that a Mawloc can TftD a flier.

[wisdomseyes1]

Jul 20, 2012 7:50:13 GMT coredump said:

Guys, read his post again. He is in the camp saying that a Mawloc can TftD a flier.

Watch the next FAQ make quick work of that. haha. But that is not really a conversation I want to have on this thread.

My only suggestions are as even what I would have said in 5th. Tervigan is better as a troop, and start the mawlocks on the board to not have to roll for anything turn 2

[akaiyou]

Jul 19, 2012 19:26:02 GMT paxmiles said:

You realize that template weapons can't hit flyers, nor can assaulting units?

In other words, you should be pretty much unable to kill any flyers at all. Dunno if opponents are running them in your area, but it presents another dimension to list building, especially for tyranids.
-Pax

As far as i'm aware you can only 'SHOOT' snap fire at flyers unless you have SKYFIRE special rule.

The Mawloc has a special rule it is resolved in the movement phase it is not a shooting attack. Thus it can and does hit flyers, they are being attacked by a special rule not a shooting attack.

The only thing preventing Flyers from being shot at by Blasts/Templates is the fact that Snap Fire forbids their use. This does not apply whatsoever to a Mawloc's attack because it was never a shooting weapon.

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That said, after several revisions on the list I ultimately decided on the following:

1000 Pts - Tyranids Roster - Death

HQ:
. . 1 Tervigon, 210 pts (Cluster Spines; Adrenal Glands; Toxin Sacs; Dominion; Catalyst; Onslaught)

Elite:
. . 1 Deathleaper, 140 pts

Troops:
. . 10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts
. . 10 Termagant Brood, 50 pts

Heavy Support:
. . 1 Trygon, 210 pts (Toxin Sacs)
. . 1 Mawloc, 170 pts
. . 1 Mawloc, 170 pts

Total Roster Cost: 1000


I decided that i might as well only have 1 tervigon for the warlord and to add a trygon for combat support. I have a lack of synapse in my army because im relying on that Tervigon getting 3 chances to get something useful on the Biomancy table to protect it. In a 1,000 pt game there shouldnt be too many things aiming to hurti t over the other MCs.

And plus I want to test out how the army works with a lack of synapse which on paper to me looks like it would work perfectly fine RAGE is not a handicap anymore which im loving as it allows me more flexibility in my armies instead of the constant worry on synapse.

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My 1st game was versus my good friend and his Tau whom I've been happily assaulting for the past 7 years with my Tyranids. I feel as if I had a bit of an unfair advantage as it was our first game and we agreed to run 'simple' armies to learn the rules.

I interpreted this as not using too many different unit types/squad leaders/and other stuff that would overly complicate our first test of 6th. So I build the list to just be MCs which work similarly and the gaunts/deathleaper pretty simple for a Tyranid list IMO.

He brought an Ethereal with honor guard fire warriors or whatever they are called, 3 large squads of fire warriors, one really large unit of Kroot with hounds and 2 hammerheads. Leaving all his vehicles/crisis suits etc etc in their box. As he interpreted this to be a game of using mostly the basic units in the army

He was not happy with the amount of MCs I brought to the table. And with good reason I basically crushed his whole army by turn 3 by just sending my mawlocs/trygon over to his side of the table with the deathleaper and keeping the tervigon and gaunts on my end far far far away from his rapid fire and thus not at all involved in the fighting.

Things I learned.

1. Deathleaper is pure win! Took out both of the hammerheads single-handedly. Turn 2 he showed up behind one and shot the rear armour exploding it. Not getting a negative modifier from AP - was nice. Exploded that Hammerhead

The other one got assaulted turn 3. Hitting vehicles on 3+ is a huge change from 5th. How i hated having to hit these things on 6s....

2. Carnivorous Forests are NOT to be taken lightly. Remember Forests are mysterious terrain...and D3 S5 attacks will kill your gaunts! In my head it just seemed like no big deal to lose one or two gaunts a turn, but it adds up quickly

3. Mawlocs can be very deadly versus Infantry if they hit....but where do you remove models from? It's not a shooting attack it doesn't get shot from any specific direction, it's more akin to a barrage weapon so where do you remove models from? In our game we simply agree to remove casualties from the models under the blast and counting those as being the 'closest' models

I'd say this thing works like a barrage in terms of wound allocation?

4. Deathleaper's 'It's after me!' special rule is still really good. I mainly want it for psychic defense but it really does mess with certain characters...in this case the Ethereal who had one of his special rules shut down basically by being dropped -3 Leadership.


Overall I'm happy with how this list played out seems to have potential and I want to try it out against a more formidable foe, specially against allied armies

[coredump]

Jul 28, 2012 2:58:30 GMT akaiyou said:

The only thing preventing Flyers from being shot at by Blasts/Templates is the fact that Snap Fire forbids their use.

This is incorrect. Flyers cannot be hit by Blasts/Templates regardless of the Snap Shot rules.

[hellhammer]

Models are removed from the center of the blast-template mawloc TftD
I like your list but against flyer heavy armies you've got a problem