agressive players

[rainthezangoose]

i think the problem is there is a fact that so many more people play space marine armies.. so rules that wouldn't apply to them might as well not exist in someplayes mind...

[housecawdor]

Smile, just smile. Then use logic. While they bend down to use the rulebook, pull out the katana.

[Psychichobo]

I've seen a few players like that, who'll argue with such a venomous rage for their point that it's almost scary. Half the time they try to circumvent the rule if you show it them anyway, or start claiming the rules of the game don't work properly (which is just whining at that point, but it really kills any mood in the game).

If they're always acting like asses though then just don't play them, or try to make sure plenty of people are watching so they're more likely to embarrass themselves publicly.

[gloomfang]

Helps that I usually only play tournaments and GW sanctioned ones at that. When there is a question we just ask the TO.

As to rules and having them on hand:
I played a 2K pt. tourny on Saterday and my first opponent had a Red Scorpion army that I had never seen before. I asked what every unit was and what it did. He told me and provided me with the rules for his units to look over quickly.

His list was:

2 Achilles pattern landraiders with 2 TLMM and Thunderfire cannon
1 librarian comander who could channel a 2++ save every tunr for his armor
1 Heavy dred that had 2xTLLC and a cyclone missle launcher (Contemplater i think)
1 CC dread that had an 5++ invulnerable save
bunch of tanks and stuff... Attaching a picture of his army so people can sort out what he had.

So I went to the TO and asked if this much Forgeworld stuff was legal. I was told yes so I just got over it and played. (For the record I won, Draw on primary and tertiary, I won on secondary).

It was a fun game and they player wasn't a jerk or WAAC. He just like Forgeworld stuff. If he didn't have the rules and I didn't trust him not to cheat I think I would have raised and issue with the TO.

[gloomfang]

Opps here is the pic.

[housecawdor]

Forgeworl will make you the best lists... If you have the money. Isn't there a guardsmen regiment that can get AP1 lasguns 0.o

[gloomfang]

Jun 18, 2012 20:54:49 GMT housecawdor said:

Forgeworl will make you the best lists... If you have the money. Isn't there a guardsmen regiment that can get AP1 lasguns 0.o

Only legal tyranid unit from Forge World is the stone crusher. Trust me I looked and had GW verify it.

[Space is pretty big]

Jun 18, 2012 19:51:03 GMT housecawdor said:

Smile, just smile.

[infornography]

I thought the Malanthrope was legal as well. Still not a huge game changer but I thought they were 40k legal.

[gloomfang]

Jun 19, 2012 2:32:55 GMT infornography said:

I thought the Malanthrope was legal as well. Still not a huge game changer but I thought they were 40k legal.

They might be. I just checked and they are an HQ and not gargantuan. Those are the only limits I think.

[emoge]

Malanthrope is not legal in 40k, only in apocalypse.

The vast majority of Forgeworld units are heavily overcosted. There's only a few units that are kind of broken... like that siege plane thingy @_@

Glancing at the picture, the dreads are generally heavily overcosted. They're almost twice the cost of a regular dread. None of it is really bad since the bad things tend to stick out to me and none of that seemed familiar to me.

If he spent the money, why not let him play it, right? As you found out, Gloom, just because it costs more doesn't mean it's instant-win ^_^

[gloomfang]

Jun 19, 2012 5:17:10 GMT emoge said:

If he spent the money, why not let him play it, right? As you found out, Gloom, just because it costs more doesn't mean it's instant-win ^_^

That list was built to play marines and he was paying a ton of points for things like "ignores melta" and such. It helped that I we were playing Dawn of War and that let me put the swarmlord about 18" from his land raiders. I was able to keep him from escaping his deployment zone because he chose to castle.

Still the ignores cover on those thunderfire shells hurt. It was the only reason I drew as he just killed 19 guants on one of the objectives on the last turn.

But I tend to find people who are not jerks about things get more tolerence from me. I had a much bigger problem with the guy later on that refused to get the angle right on his vindicator scatter for 4 turns to get more hits on my genestealers behind a building.

[infornography]

The land raider achilies is amazing. I'd say it's not undercosted but it is definitely not overcosted either. It is expensive and worth every point. The same cannot be said for all forge world stuff, but that guy is kinda scary.

[gigasnail]

@emogee: malanthrope is legal for 40k, if you're allowing FW units. it's got the stamp. it's an oddball, a MC HQ that you can take in broods.

from the IA - Apoc Second edition, the following are ok for 40k games:
malantrhope
meiotic spore
stonecrusher carnifex

the superheavies and formations are for apoc.

and yes most FW stuff is overcosted, with a few wtfbroken units.

[Illithid]

Giga is spot on with this one sadly Emoge. Look in the latest IA.