About Genestealers.

You going to let us in on it or are you just going to let this thread close because its doing nothing???

By definition, I don't see what I'm missing

Hey, he can buy alllllllll the pyrovores he wants. I won't touch the damn thing until it gets a rules amendment and I can't see the stupid things going up in price any more than they already are.

Okay.

I'll give you guys a nibble.

It has something to do with a recent clarification on what happens when a Gone To Ground unit becomes Fearless.

A 'Stealershock army can be effectively designed as 80 Toxin Sac Genestealers, 2 HQ Tervigons, and one Troop Tervigon + 10 man Gant squad, all with 3 x psychic powers. One squad outflanks, three squads Infiltrate outside of Synapse range into cover, Tervigons hang back, just outside of 12'' of the 3 Genestealer squads.

Aim for going 2nd by choice, so you can land a 1st Turn Charge occasionally, by Going To Ground with all three squads infiltrated into cover for a 3+ save against incoming fire during your foe's first turn, and then activate Dominion (which occurs BEFORE the movement phase), thus allowing Genestealers to "act normally" upon becoming Fearless (which is clarified in the FAQ as being able to move, run, shoot, and/or assault, depending on when Fearless occurred. In this case, it preempts the movement phase, and thus restores all Gone To Ground gribblies to functionality, with no penalty.)

Suddenly, your 60 Genestealers (2 of which probably have Feel No Pain, as one Dominion extends a Tervigon's synapse to 18'', enough to catch all 3 squads) move their 6'' deeper into their enemy's territory, and Fleet Assault anything they can. Hanging back to ensure only 8 or 10 Genestealers make it into assault is key, as they'll usually blenderize whatever they touch. Alternatively, aiming most attacks into a vehicle to inflict less squad damage can also work.

60 'Stealers are reinforced by 20 more which outflank on Turn 2 or 3, usually, as well as 10 + 3d6'' x 3 until doubles are rolled Gants with Tervi-buffs.

'Stealers usually kill everything forever, and the army is an effective anti-flyer spam army, as well as anti-infantry and even anti-vehicle. It even manages to pull off its psychic shenanigans through Runes of Warding, more often than not, by simply having 3 different psykers doing the same thing.

Plenty of scoring, plenty of bodies, ignores the sky, and dominates the ground.

I'm quietly winning a lot of games with this list.

There are rumours that the pyrovore will get amendments and you was hinting the genestealers would also get an improvement. I'm saying that the pyrovore improvement would make the model more used but I doubt the model would be worth buying sooner then later as commandersasha was saying as it costs a bundle. We arent talking type of unit but potential for improvement and getting deals before they do.

It's not a bad idea, but it's very one dimensional list with more hard counters than other one dimensional lists like Tervigon spam. Additionally, 1 in 3 games will be Hammer and Anvil which will not be fun at all. It's not that people haven't considered a mass infiltrating list, it's just that they've realised its flaws.